calling out " hey ! " with the accompanying body language is referred to as " social pressure " and is , in fact , positive punishment , so actually you are " correcting " the dog for non-compliance .

hope that helps .

I agree that the "Hey" is +P as long as the dog responds to it immediately and consistently.

If not then there are other issues going on.

In the OP's case it sounds like "possibly" to much distraction for the level of training at this time.

Yes, Bob, I believe this too. Thanks.

Thanks, Ian. This makes things clear.

I would try to read your dog and determine exactly how well the "hey" is working for you. If it feels like you are nagging your dog with the hey, for example always having to say hey before they comply, then you would to dial up the correction.

For my dog collar pops are a lower level correction. He takes them very well. The highest correction to him, that puts him into complete avoidance, is when I stiffen my body, lower my head, and bare my teeth at him sometimes with a quiet low throaty growl. I only use that for baby infractions like getting too close or getting between me and the baby.

Obviously you know that what you do depends on the dog but I think you should consider whether or not you are nagging with "hey".

Sorry, I somehow do not understaand. Why am I nagging? I am only reminding my dog, that I have given him an ordrr. Instead of giving him a leash correction I m making him paying eattention to me with that word and then he remembers what I hve asked. If he does not, I will have to call him back and start again. I do not like to give leash corrections, if after my warning "Hey!" he obeys.This in my eyes is not nagginthis is giving him a second chance. That is how I learned it from Ed.
Sorry to bother you, maybe I am mixing up something with my English.

well , how often do you have to " remind " the dog with the " hey " ?

because if this is starting to become the normal routine ( say around 50 % and trending towards more ) , then " hey " preceded by whatever else you are doing ( voice / physical ) may now have unwittingly become the actual cue to do the behaviour .

if you are saying " hey " more now than you did before , you are doing something wrong , and if you are saying " hey " less , then you are on the right track , but need to be vigilant .

at what distance are you expecting the behaviours ?

Thank you for making what I was trying to say more clear Ian.

I would also like to add that, and I can't speak for every dog, but in my experience they need to be shown that you mean what you say the first time. Otherwise they get the idea that they only need to listen if they are either bored and really want something to do or, more to my point, if you use your "serious" voice. It becomes a weakness in their training.

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about angry and harsh corrections. I'm speaking of when you know they are aware of what to do and are choosing to ignore you and wait for the serious "hey!" before saying to themselves "oh, I guess we should..she sounds like she means it".

Nobody likes to give leash corrections but they are often necessary.

What Nicole said above about not "angry and harsh corrections".

Corrections have to be firm but fair. That has to be figured out with the individual dog.

What will crush one dog will just be ignored by another.

To many view markers and motivational training as having to be completely free of physical corrections.

I've done it and I've seen some excellent dogs trained that way BUT there is a leadership/management issue that not all can grasp.

Those that I've seen fail at markers with NO physical correction have always lacked in the leadership/management part of it.

This is definitely NOT a dig at anyone in particular. It's just my own observation over my 12+ yrs with doing motivational training.

For the VAST number of trainers there needs to be a balance with markers and the use of correction with those markers.

That balance all depends on the individual's ability to see what works for them AND each individual dog.

What does it take to get and keep my dog's attention?

If what we "know" to be a high value reward doesn't work then we need to find out why and what does.

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well , how often do you have to " remind " the dog with the " hey " ?

because if this is starting to become the normal routine ( say around 50 % and trending towards more ) , then " hey " preceded by whatever else you are doing ( voice / physical ) may now have unwittingly become the actual cue to do the behaviour .

if you are saying " hey " more now than you did before , you are doing something wrong , and if you are saying " hey " less , then you are on the right track , but need to be vigilant .

at what distance are you expecting the behaviours ?

Tye "Hey I'm actually not using very often, certainly not 50%. But what I often do, when they begin to pull is I'm standing still,so they cannot advance. Then they akwqyw rrurn back to me. If there appears a very
high level attraction, e.g. a person, who wants to struggle the dog, then I say "perto" (near)which normally helps, if the persons respects my wish not to touch the dog. Otherwise I will change direction, which can be difficult wth the bigger one of the Pits, because she loves being struggled on the belly and she is very strong.