Candi Campbell wrote 08/05/2016 10:45 AM Re: Will this make a difference? [Re: Bob Scott ] #401672 - 08/05/2016 10:45 AM
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 03-28-2013 Posts: 1571 Loc: Offline	Quote: Bob Scott Imagine a JRT that weights 60lbs. OH...wait! I think they call that a Mal. LOL, I always say the reason that God made Basenjis to weigh 22 pounds is because if they were much BIGGER then they would be Ruling the World and it would NOT be "pretty"... And when I got my first AKITA at age 57, I said it was because "in my old age, I had to get an EASIER breed"
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Bob Scott wrote 08/05/2016 11:47 PM Re: Will this make a difference? [Re: Candi Campbell ] #401689 - 08/05/2016 11:47 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	I'm betting easier to train. Over the years I've seen way more Akitas then Basenji in the AKC OB ring.....and "way" more doesn't mean a lot of Akitas. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Christina Lockard wrote 08/06/2016 08:44 AM Re: Will this make a difference? [Re: Bob Scott ] #401692 - 08/06/2016 08:44 AM
Christina Lockard Webboard User Reg: 06-09-2016 Posts: 48 Loc: Kentucky Offline	My all-time favorite "I know what you want, but I'll do it when I want" dog is the Schipperke. My little terror not only knew how far she could unroll the toilet paper around the corner and down the stairs, but how fast she could do it and not be caught in the act! Would do whatever I asked her, UNLESS a better offer came along. Then she would perform the task I had asked when she returned...Correction only invited a payback later! So continued patience, a positive attitude, and a better offer were always necessary! I still keep telling my husband I want a pack of them to see what small country they may take over!
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Bob Scott wrote 08/06/2016 11:11 PM Re: Will this make a difference? [Re: tracey holden ] #401695 - 08/06/2016 11:11 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	The sire of my Border terrier was doing his normally excellent UD scent article retrieve in AKC OB. Normally solid as a rock but had a sense of humor that could get him in trouble. On this day he was was sent to retrieve the scented article. He easily found it but looked up at his handler and with a happily wagging tail proceeded to push the article all the way to the handler with his nose. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Candi Campbell wrote 08/08/2016 09:33 AM Re: Will this make a difference? [Re: Christina Lockard ] #401709 - 08/08/2016 09:33 AM
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 03-28-2013 Posts: 1571 Loc: Offline	Quote: Christina Lockard My all-time favorite "I know what you want, but I'll do it when I want" dog is the Schipperke. My little terror not only knew how far she could unroll the toilet paper around the corner and down the stairs, but how fast she could do it and not be caught in the act! Would do whatever I asked her, UNLESS a better offer came along. Then she would perform the task I had asked when she returned...Correction only invited a payback later! So continued patience, a positive attitude, and a better offer were always necessary! I still keep telling my husband I want a pack of them to see what small country they may take over! Oh yes, if I saw that one of my Basenjis was HEADED to bed of his OWN volition, and I then TOLD him "Go to Bed", he'd hang a U-Turn and rush off to do ANYTHING else -- Also, following a correction, they would wait until you had gone on about other business, then "pay you back" for the correction by peeing on the couch or in the basket of CLEAN laundry
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Christina Stockinger wrote 08/09/2016 08:01 AM Re: Will this make a difference? [Re: tracey holden ] #401710 - 08/09/2016 08:01 AM
Christina Stockinger Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2015 Posts: 1619 Loc: Brazil, Bahia Offline	Hi everyone! I've been following this thread all the time, but didn't know what to contribute. I have not much experience with different breeds and none at all with all those rings n what's going on there. I'm shocked. Such a lot from what I read and vids I watched I found horrible. Disgusting how far breeders and their clients can go just for selfish reasons. I knew of some senseless and irresponible breeding of GSPs and some others. But that it could be like that makes me feel sick. I've read about some designer dogs, often bred for creating a breed just for styling a new "beauty" or a creepy fashion-dog, which sells well. I know that there are not always bad intentions behind this. Maybe that an experienced and responsible breeder can perhaps bring desirable characteristics together, which are not harmful for the dog. But ... ??? I don't really know what to think. Some write that breeders create hybrid dogs in order to avoid negative results of inbreeding. What is your opinion about this? “If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs, then you are a leader” – Rudyard Kipling
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Bob Scott wrote 08/09/2016 11:04 PM Re: Will this make a difference? [Re: tracey holden ] #401715 - 08/09/2016 11:04 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	Developing a new "breed" requires being able to eliminate the possibility of dogs with characteristics not wanted in the "new" breed. That may mean being sure that non of those not breed worthy wont be reproducing. That means being 100% sure they are nuetered or, something that no one wants to talk about, culling! Inbreeding can be an excellent tool "IF" it's done properly and "IF" the breeder is willing to control in one way or another ALL the pups in every litter. That rarely happens today because of money and/or thinking with your heart instead of your head. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Christina Stockinger wrote 08/10/2016 07:51 AM Re: Will this make a difference? [Re: tracey holden ] #401719 - 08/10/2016 07:51 AM
Christina Stockinger Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2015 Posts: 1619 Loc: Brazil, Bahia Offline	That's what makes me sick. Means, if someone wants a certain breed or mix, he will need an expert as assistance. Difficult to find alone a responsible breeder, who really knows his job. Makes me think, you can as well adopt a homeless dog from the street. Though of course also then you normally don't know his genetic background. Apart from this also nature can create mutations which make the dog suffer. At least then it simply happens but is not the result of human carelessness or/and greed. Sad topic! “If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs, then you are a leader” – Rudyard Kipling
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Candi Campbell wrote 08/10/2016 02:20 PM Re: Will this make a difference? [Re: Bob Scott ] #401723 - 08/10/2016 02:20 PM
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 03-28-2013 Posts: 1571 Loc: Offline	Quote: Bob Scott Developing a new "breed" requires being able to eliminate the possibility of dogs with characteristics not wanted in the "new" breed. That may mean being sure that non of those not breed worthy wont be reproducing. That means being 100% sure they are nuetered or, something that no one wants to talk about, culling! Inbreeding can be an excellent tool "IF" it's done properly and "IF" the breeder is willing to control in one way or another ALL the pups in every litter. That rarely happens today because of money and/or thinking with your heart instead of your head. "Money is the root of all evil"... Yes sadly, using "Parent A" from One Unhealthy Breed and crossing it with "Parent B" from a Different Unhealthy Breed, simply produces a LITTER of Unhealthy "Designer Dog" Pups -- Then add mother-to-son & father-to-daughter & brother-to-sister pairings into the MIX by many band-wagon "GREEDER$", and there is No Improvement in the dogs' Health Problems whatsoever
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Bob Scott wrote 08/10/2016 11:46 PM Re: Will this make a difference? [Re: tracey holden ] #401732 - 08/10/2016 11:46 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	To my knowledge the originator of the Labradoodle was the only one who put a thought behind what he was doing but I've read that he since regrets it after seeing how it has gone rampart out of control. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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