 Re: Excessive licking
[Re: Christina Stockinger ]
#401720 - 08/10/2016 09:00 AM |
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Sorry, I somehow can't get rid of that topic. Whether I say "leave it!", kick, spray something stinky for them, pick up the hose I always only treat the symptom not the cause.
If one of my dogs doesn't like to enter the water, I know the cause, his dislike, and can in baby steps try to address and lessen this. So it is just a matter of time and patience.
But it is difficult to find out what is the cause for this licking. I always think, if I'd be able to find the cause for it, it would be much easier to do something against it.
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Re: Excessive licking
[Re: Christina Stockinger ]
#401724 - 08/10/2016 02:44 PM |
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Sorry, I somehow can't get rid of that topic. Whether I say "leave it!", kick, spray something stinky for them, pick up the hose I always only treat the symptom not the cause.
If one of my dogs doesn't like to enter the water, I know the cause, his dislike, and can in baby steps try to address and lessen this. So it is just a matter of time and patience.
But it is difficult to find out what is the cause for this licking. I always think, if I'd be able to find the cause for it, it would be much easier to do something against it.
LOL, you command, "!NO LICK!" -- Dog asks, "?Why?" ... You answer, "Because I SAY So."
Bottom Line: It doesn't MATTER why -- This is a dog training lesson not a "philosophy class" study session ... Doggie is licking you non-stop because it WANTS to do so, that's all 
You are basically training the "!NO!" command & you are rewarding the dog even for "forced" compliance by your helpful assistance of re-directing its UNWANTED action onto an equally or even more PLEASURABLE behavior with which the dog is encouraged to occupy itself instead -- You may never be able to learn WHY that dog enjoys licking you non-stop ... Doggie may not even know WHY (it just Feels Good and/or is self-soothing) but the main thing is YOU do not want this dog to do it.
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Re: Excessive licking
[Re: Christina Stockinger ]
#401730 - 08/10/2016 11:34 PM |
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What Candi Said!
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Re: Excessive licking
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#401739 - 08/11/2016 08:22 AM |
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Candi! You're a darned witty and clearly speaking person. And Bob with his short dry humour too!
I couldn't stop laughing for at least 10 minutes, although it actually is a serious thing.  It still overcomes me, when I read it again!
I admit, you hit the point exactly!  
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Re: Excessive licking
[Re: Christina Stockinger ]
#401742 - 08/11/2016 09:42 AM |
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Candi! You're a darned witty and clearly speaking person. And Bob with his short dry humour too!
I couldn't stop laughing for at least 10 minutes, although it actually is a serious thing. It still overcomes me, when I read it again!
I admit, you hit the point exactly! 
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Re: Excessive licking
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#401743 - 08/11/2016 10:34 AM |
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Sorry, I somehow can't get rid of that topic. Whether I say "leave it!", kick, spray something stinky for them, pick up the hose I always only treat the symptom not the cause.
If one of my dogs doesn't like to enter the water, I know the cause, his dislike, and can in baby steps try to address and lessen this. So it is just a matter of time and patience.
But it is difficult to find out what is the cause for this licking. I always think, if I'd be able to find the cause for it, it would be much easier to do something against it.
LOL, you command, "!NO LICK!" -- Dog asks, "?Why?" ... You answer, "Because I SAY So."
Bottom Line: It doesn't MATTER why -- This is a dog training lesson not a "philosophy class" study session ... Doggie is licking you non-stop because it WANTS to do so, that's all
You are basically training the "!NO!" command & you are rewarding the dog even for "forced" compliance by your helpful assistance of re-directing its UNWANTED action onto an equally or even more PLEASURABLE behavior with which the dog is encouraged to occupy itself instead -- You may never be able to learn WHY that dog enjoys licking you non-stop ... Doggie may not even know WHY (it just Feels Good and/or is self-soothing) but the main thing is YOU do not want this dog to do it. For any fans of old films here, check out this note-worthy quote from one of my FAVES, "Backdraft"...
Arson Investigator studying a fire scene & explaining an intuitive part of his job to a new trainee :
He squirts a tiny trail of oil across the floor, up one wall & onto the ceiling, then drops a burning cigarette butt on the ground & says, "This fire will move across the floor, up that wall & over the ceiling NOT merely due to the physics of fammable liquids, but because it WANTS to...")
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Re: Excessive licking
[Re: Christina Stockinger ]
#401745 - 08/11/2016 11:21 AM |
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I think there's a balance to figuring out "why". It can absolutely help to know the why behind a behavior.
I mean, if you have super yummy lotion that your dog loves to lick, it's nice to figure that out. If your dog is stressed, that knowledge should absolutely play into management.
But you can analyze it to death, too. And that's going to stress you out. If you fall into that trap just get out and take a walk with dog. It should solve both issues
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Re: Excessive licking
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#401746 - 08/11/2016 11:42 AM |
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So true!  I'm sometimes a bit too intented on knowing what happens why. Too cautious. Sometimes it's better to risk an error than understand everything which might cause something. Nothing against figuring out or trying to, but often we then miss a reaction at the right moment.
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#401747 - 08/11/2016 11:48 AM |
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Re: Excessive licking
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#401749 - 08/11/2016 12:08 PM |
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These sorts of daily life behaviors I don't bother using treats with. Good house manners are simply an expected part of life.
Why does a dog JUMP UP on my good clothes when I'm on my way out the door to work ? It WANTS to...
Why does a dog sit on MY CHAIR when it has a perfectly Comfortable Bed of its own nearby ?? It WANTS to...
Why does a dog drink from A TOILET when it has its own bowl of Clean Water always accessible ??? It WANTS to...
IMHO, forbidding inconvenient or distasteful actions like these is more of a "Pack Structure Protocol" issue than anything else & is done simply because the OWNER Considers Them UNWANTED behaviors
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