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Quote: Bob Scott
If it was just tossing a stick I would end with an OK and they understood the stick was theirs to do as they wished. I often had a treat with me to give after the last toss if the item wasn't disposable.
For actual training I never had an issue keeping the training article be it a Kong for SAR or a bite tug for most everything else. When I was herding with Thunder I would work him with the tug and that seemed to give me quicker response when he was working sheep. No idea why.
With Quincy I play fetch in the house as does the wife. I know, I know! It goes against everything I've preached but I was in sitting down a lot after my surgery. Never knew I would be snuggling with a puppy or talking like a baby. Dern Poodle is ruining my whole image.
One thing I've learned in the past yrs is that when working on a new behavior I stick with only that behavior until its solid. I use to work on 2-3 behaviors at a time. Most of my dogs "got it" but this one behavior at a time seems to go faster in their learning.
Below zero last week and it was in the 60s today. Lots of sit training of and on outside.
Quincy has a nice sit and sit stay but I found today, working OB in the front yard created many distractions and quite different from working in the familiar back yard. In the back yard hearing a dog outside can be pretty much ignored but seeing someone walking their dog was a bit much so I will work the sit and sit stay like it was brand new. I would be unwise to ruin what he knows well without the extra distractions. Wife and I did a few recalls back and fourth in the front and he did excellent With those with dragging a long line.
My uses for the sit stay
Going in and out of the house, going up and down the basement steps, in and out of the yard gate and sitting for his meals. All familiar to him and getting the sit stay solid. When it comes to competition I will add much more distractions, distance and duration to all the behaviors he will learn.
Quincy has not made a potty mistake in the house since he was about 12 wks old. I can only say that just means being CONSISTENT IN ANY PART OF THE TRAINING! If you cant keep and eye on the puppy either crate it or tether it to you. Wife, as usual with house training a new puppy was a huge help with this. Quincy is the first puppy in the house for almost 13 yrs.
When walking at the park yesterday we had many dogs raising hell. 1/2 mile walking path has many houses with dogs along it and that was his first exposure to so many dogs. Worked just the quick sits, mark and reward. No effort or reason to add distance or duration with all the distractions at this early point.
I like working on one behavior at a time too.
That totally makes sense that front-yard OB is a different level of distraction from back-yard OB.
A lot of beginning trainers dog understand the difference in areas of distraction. My small back yard has a 6ft privacy fence around it and the front yard is relatively busy with cars and people walking their dogs. On the other side of the back privacy fence we have a very noisy Yorkie and a Bearded Collie. Quincy has learned pretty much to ignore both when in our back yard. We live in a corner house so we also have a side yard. When on that side yard with Quincy he can see those two dogs in their yard. That is also a bit of a distraction to him. Amazing how subtle things can create a distraction for a puppy or dog in training.
Every distraction we find I start even the simple exercises from the beginning to find Quincy's threshold for that particular distraction.
Wow-welcome to Poodles, Bob! I'll have to sign in more to see how he's training you.
Congratulations, I am sure he'll do well at whatever venue you select.
Thanks Tammy. I'm off to a slow start as you see in the above posts but he's still coming along nicely. In the next week or so I will try and post a short video on facebook on where we are now.
It sounds like you are both off to a good start. I have my Standard ,a Miniature that we are working on agility, nose work and some Parkour. It has been a difficult year for training and trialing with all of the covid restrictions. It will be fun hearing about your journey with Quincy. I hope you are recovering well from your surgery.
We've had good weather the past few days and I've been able to get a lot done with Quincy in the yard. AKC obedience and herding are my top wishes with him. You mentioned how he is training me. All I can say is Quincy is like no other dog I've had. Wife and I see so many things in him that make you just KNOW that he's reading your mind.
Most of the Poodles history goes back to Germany as a waterfowl dog. Quincy's breeder breeds for performance and there are a number of waterfowl dogs in Quincy's line including his Sire, his mom and one other that i know of. Many from the breeders lines are all over the USA. I've also found a few articles that where the Poodle goes back to a shaggy Central Asian herding dog. You tube has a number of videos with the Poodles herding. I did herding with my muli- titled working GSD Thunder. The AKC HT was one of them and life got in the way to advance him in herding but he was a natural. Hoping to see a bit of that when my herding instructor things he's ready. At four months and a couple of weeks old he is sitting, standing, downing and coming. Short term Stay on all but need lots more proofing and maturity to really get them all solid but I'm happy where he at for now. His stay is nice when we go out a door or gate and also a sit stay while I walk across the yard for a recall. Wife and i took him to a new park today. Not very busy with people walking but it was great for doing recalls between the wife and I at the length of the flexi lead. Like a rocket ship. Not working on the finish at that distance yet because he thinks it's bowling for old people right now.
Wife and i took him to a new park today. Not very busy with people walking but it was great for doing recalls between the wife and I at the length of the flexi lead. Like a rocket ship. Not working on the finish at that distance yet because he thinks it's bowling for old people right now.
I can relate! I do like your idea about doing recalls, on a long lead, between two people, at the park. I'm going to enlist my husband and start trying that.
Excellent. Today we did the same at the park out in the middle with few distractions. We added a call off and it went well. We took turns holding the dog while the other person became very interesting to the dog WITHOUT CALLING HIM. Person holding the dog lets the dog go to the person doing the distracting. Person holding the dog calls the dog back befoer it gets to far. It worked well for us. We did not let the dog go more then 10-12 feet before the call back. More distance and higher level of distractions will be added as the dog does well but only one at a time. I follow the three D rule. Distance, Duration and Distraction. Add only one of the three at a time and get is solid. THEN when you add another of the three Ds shorten up on the one the dog knows. Example: If I have a bit of distance developed then when I add EITHER distraction or duration I will shorten up on the Distance.
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