David Morris Webboard User Reg: 11-28-2002
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Hey Alex,no,the word "dude" does not offend me.Actually I thought you might be a girl when you said your pup was a "cuddly,sweetie".Oh yeah,nichts nein,on the the trip to Florida after my girlfriend found out you were a she! Now about puppydude! People are wanting to jump me over this stuff,Im not saying isolate the pup, Im saying get your obedience squared away and the pup under control before he is exposed to other dogs. When I have a group class I tell people "dont let the dogs sniff each other" Im wanting the dogs to get use to be around other dogs but still recognize me as being in control of the situation and still be expected to be obedient.Get the obedience down.thats important.You can apply this same stuff around the house with the older female,put puppyman on a leash in the house and make him be obedient when the other dog is loose.
Puppyman is a he isnt he?
Stop making excuses for your dog and start training it!
People seem to read alot of negative into things. To socialize is not bad. Of course you can put a spin on it and say bad socializing is bad. Maybe I'm slow but I think that goes without saying. If I say it's Ok walk a dog on a road does that mean you should go on a freeway at rush hour? I guess I'll need to be more exact like those warnings Preperation H "not to be taken orally".
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Eric, according to your last post ,you said ,socialize,socialize it can "NEVER" be wrong.It can be wrong.You also said you use to let your dogs go at it in the livivng room ,its to hard to prevent it.The fact is you have to get control,hard or not, of the situation.You must implement obedience at some point.You know some people would "NEVER" take preperation H orally but they might squirt some in their mouth!
Stop making excuses for your dog and start training it!
I'll try to be more specific. What I thought I said was that you can't go wrong with giving advice to socialize. Yes some people will socialize poorly and unproductively. That is a good point. Many accually probably do it wrong.
Would it be better to say that you can't go wrong with recomending propper socializing. Or do you feel that there are cases when propper socializing would be a bad idea.
Both of my females were very well trained. Now and then there are times when rank is challenged. 99% of the time "knock if off" works preemptively. That 1% of times when it doesn't something gets going. In the middle of a dog fight sometimes they're a little too preocupied to listen. Of course if they were better trained they would stop. I'm still working on that. On the sleeve if the decoy cannot sure up it takes a while to out also. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
After reading the post and several post dealing with similar problems, I'd agree with David if you want the dog to be a sport dog. You take control of the situation. I would work the pup in Ob and crate it when I needed quite time for me and the female dog. I would scuff shake and crate him, when he shows aggression or rough puppy play with the bitch. By doing this the puppy soon learns that he will be discipline if he acts poorly.
You can still have a tough dog with the bitch as the Alpha-dog, but first you have to let the puppy know that you are Pack-Alpha. You have a hi-spirited pup and I know you don't want to break his spirit (envisioning all those 1st place trophies) but you got to gain control of him first.
I think its cute that he dives into your bed knowing that its the wrong thing to do and he will be corrected for it. If you channel this strong williness you got a winner <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
David Morris Webboard User Reg: 11-28-2002
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Eric your right you cant go wrong with proper socializing but the first step is establishing obedience and then proper socializing and being in control of the situation to ensure nothing goes wrong.I dont beleive in just standing back and letting nature run its course,thats not proper socializing.
Stop making excuses for your dog and start training it!
Don that's good advice I ussually put my young male in his cage if he harrasses his mother too much. A good shack and a no might be a good addition. Thanks.
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Matt,wrong.You said another dog then you say a mother wich is it?Whos talking about mass murder last I checked we were talking about dogs.A dogs confidenced can be rocked.Letting nature run its course and staying out of it will create a less than desirable dog.Have you ever trained a pup that has been constantly corrected by an older dog in the house? Or to use your kind of example are you saying a kid slapped around by its Dad has no lasting effects or even better one who's dad stood by while some else slapped them around.
Your wrong!Somebody has to take control and introduce structure and introduce rules and mold desirable attitudes.
Stop making excuses for your dog and start training it!
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