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Re: Position of prong collar question
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#52008 - 07/23/2004 08:19 AM |
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Well since he is afraid of most everyone, I would go very slow to introduce him to strangers to show him that HEY PEOPLE ARE OK <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Some dogs are just fearful and you have to be patient with doing this. You have to find out where his comfort zone is and work from there. The easiest way to do this is to have some friends come over and start giving him treats. Put him in a sit and allow the people to treat him. Once he puts the two together TREAT/PEOPLE he will start warming up. When I take my two out on walks together I enccourage people to pet them and interact with them and I started this when they were pups. Go slow with him and he should come around <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Position of prong collar question
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#52009 - 07/23/2004 07:09 PM |
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Are you sure that is the way to go? I mean.. then wouldn't he go up to random people and beg for food? My neighbor has a dog that will bark at you if you don't pet it, and it annoys me so I don't pet him because he is not my dog and he can't force me to do anything =P. I don't want other people to have to deal with that with my dogs. If some more people convince me this is the way to go though... I just want him to be confident, but not like... begging people and such.
Oh yes. I am having a little bit of trouble with my prong collar... it seems to be a common problem. I will remove some prongs, and it is just an inch or so away from connecting to the other prong, so I add another prong and it is too loose and it sides down to the middle of his neck. Maybe this is what was mentioned with chow mixes, that they have too much excess skin. Is there any way to fix this? Should I have bought a collar with smaller prongs?
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#52010 - 07/24/2004 04:54 AM |
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No your dog will not go up to random people and beg for food as long as you are in control of him.The ides is that this will make the dog more accepting of people it does not know and hopefully will ease the fear. Like I said you take is slow and find out how close a stranger can come without it triggering a fear response. Like you said you do not let him force you to give him attention so you have already set the ground rules. What you want though because you said he is fearful of others is to show him there is nothing to be afraid of and that if you say it's ok then it's ok.
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Re: Position of prong collar question
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#52011 - 07/27/2004 11:35 AM |
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In my last post, I said:
You can always go down from a medium weight to fine, or heavy to medium, but my fine weight prong is constantly coming apart. I think it's just because the prongs are thinner and they bend more easily... If you already have a medium weight prong, I would not suggest that you get a light weight for that very reason. You don't want the collar to pop off while you're out with him. I have just learned to deal with the fact that the loose skin is going to make the collar slip down just a bit. When I put it on her, I pull the skin back from her head down to her chest to make sure that 1) The collar is not accidentally pinching folds of the skin, and 2) the collar slips down as little as possible because the skin is already pulled back.
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Re: Position of prong collar question
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#52012 - 09/15/2004 01:36 AM |
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We have two great danes and it's difficult to keep the collar up behind the ears without it being VERY difficult to get off and on and probably being too tight.
So far the dogs respond to the corrections, but I don't want to be using the collar incorrectly and causing unnecessary pain that might lead to physical or emotional damage.
Does the type of dog a prong collar is being used on matter in its placement? Does the size/length of the neck have anything to do with this?
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#52013 - 09/15/2004 10:51 AM |
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Try using the smallest link prong that you can find which still has a strong enough chain attached to handle your dog. I had dobies and was in pretty much the same boat.
There are some "micro-prong" makers out there. These are collars with small but very strong prong links (1"-1.5" or less). You can get a super custom fit on the dog, plus the smaller prongs mean more "fingers" around the dog's neck.
Sylvia's Tack box (there's a link on one of the topics further down) had great prongs, but the chain attachment was weak-ish. I had to have custom chains made. I saw one recently on a gsd at our club, and the chain attachment was beautiful, but I didn't get the maker's name.
Even a normal small size prong should make it easier for you.
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#52016 - 10/13/2004 09:10 AM |
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Not to hijack this thread, but how do you know what size prong collar to use? Can you get one too big? I have a 110 Bandogge (Neo-mastiff/Staff. Terr.)
I have an extra large prong a buddy gave me thats new, but the link are BIG!
Also, at what area do you measure the neck? When someone says a 21" neck...where are they measuring?
Also...should the prong be tight enough where it cannot slip down from behind the ears?
Thanks!
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Re: Position of prong collar question
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#52017 - 10/13/2004 11:23 AM |
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Mike, yes, you can get one that is too big or too small, but for the dog you have, the extra large should be okay. You may want to exchange it for a large, though. Personally, I like to go with the smaller ones, because you get more correction points, but the smaller ones have more of a tendency to pop apart than the larger ones. I have a 60 pound pit bull/chow mix and I use a size medium on her. I use a small on my foster, a dobie/hound mix. I can post pics if you'd like to see what each one looks like on my dogs.
You can also look at Ed's site at http://www.leerburg.com/fit-prong.htm to see how it is supposed to fit. You should measure at the top of the neck, just behind the ears; and yes, it should be tight enough so that it does not slip down - but not so tight that the prongs dig into the dog's neck.
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