Oh no Annie, we are deff in competition <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> My point was that Rene is a great dog, nice looking with a good pedigree and should be bred to more. I think there are good breeders in the US as well. I look at Ivan with his Ot Vitosha Malinois and Ed with his program. They have imported their stock and then go on with their offspring. In the end Ivan won the Nationals with a dog he Bred, Owned and Titled himself. He is breeding on with his dogs and if he imports something he makes the best out of it.
I think there needs to be more of this.
I saw and worked a son SVV1 of his a while back. What a beautiful dog. Big boned black sable. Very impressive protection work on the field. I took him into a kitchen to get a bite. He shut down completely. He had a pissy attitude with people other than his handler in his own home. I able to slap him right in the face at that point in the kitchen, with no fight. On a field different story. He also doesn't breed well, for 5 bitches in heat brought to him, 1 takes.
Bryan,
What dogs have you seen or worked or both and liked. just curious, I like the czech dogs, but unfortunately there still is crap out there no matter what line. Interesting about Blek though, I have heard nothing but good things about him. Never seen any progency though.
Bryan,
I think you make a good point which ties into the other thread about Fero and selecting dogs for their ability to do real work vs. sport. When looking at the parents of a potential prospect (pup or older), how many people just watch the dog on the field vs. setting up some tests to really challenge the dog and assess his nerves, drives, etc. Also, I wonder how many owners of studs with a strong reputation in sport really do much work setting up real life scenarios in their training.
My old foundation bitch was a Ir Bo Ma daughter. I really loved those lines for Patrol dogs. Although, I really didn't ever breed her properly. My best litter with her believe it or not was with an Uran Wildstiegerlandn {WG SHOW} son SCH3 FH. That litter gave me three solid Police Dogs. A little sharp and what tracking machines. I kept a few females from that litters next breedings back to WG working lines. Outcross after outcross. Now, I may be done with Czech dogs. Only one really weird pedigreed female left. She is strong in Patrol, but like the others no hunt drive. The original bitch I had, had no ball drive, except just to possess so no one else could
Bryan
omerhaus,
You bring up a good point. This is what I have been talking about on my Fero thread. I wonder also how many people really test their dogs with real life scenarios. It seems that today most people are too infatuated(spelling?) with schutzhund. Either that or most people cant handle REAL dogs or just dont want to try. Kevin was nice enough to try and find the service selection tests, that he talked about.
Bryan,
That is an interesting story. I would have never thought that a show line dog could produce a service dog.
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