Re: Aggression-in general
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#62044 - 04/30/2003 09:37 AM |
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Linda,
Help us to get one of the facts straight here. Did you indeed post on previous forums that your dogs were being aggressive and having problems? Did you recieve some type of advice? Did your two dogs actually bite people? ( after your posts requesting advice?)
Thanks, just yes or no answers would be helpful.
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Re: Aggression-in general
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#62045 - 04/30/2003 10:54 AM |
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I am not sure how to answer
yes I posted on another forum
yes I requested advice on my dog's behavior
yes I requested clarification and the reasoning behind the advice when I did not understand why I would be doing something
yes I showed my husband the advice we were given
yes the dogs have bitten
yes I have a trainer who works with aggressive pets
I am not sure of the purpose of these questions.
I believe a particular poster has painted a very unfair picture of me and how I take advice and use it.
Please feel free to contact me via Private message
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Re: Aggression-in general
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#62046 - 04/30/2003 12:23 PM |
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Dennis and Will, yes, I had a pretty good hunch that she would submit. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> My concern was actually whether the charging bitch would accept the submission, or attack anyway. Fortunately, she accepted it. Believe me, I was not a happy camper, but felt it important to keep my composure so as not to communicate my stress/anxiety to my dog.
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Re: Aggression-in general
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#62047 - 04/30/2003 12:51 PM |
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Linda,
I am new to the forum but have been reading. From what I have gathered you have been given all the information you should need to better your dogs and your training of these dogs-especially if you have a personal trainer one that best in MA. I feel you should not even be walking your dogs if you have weak hands and cannot keep them under control, also why in gods name would you release your dog when you had an aggressive one coming at you? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> NO way would I EVER do this to my dog!!! He is my second child and if another dog was coming at him I would protect him and the other dog would be going down!
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Re: Aggression-in general
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#62048 - 04/30/2003 01:07 PM |
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Ok then. It seems we have covered the subject enough for most to get some kind of direction. Good luck. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Aggression-in general
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#62049 - 04/30/2003 01:21 PM |
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Lisa,
Ah the joy of knowing your dog well! And kudos to you for excellent handling in a difficult situation, most people could not have done that well or thought that quickly.
Linda,
You are a troll. We get idiots like you sometimes on this board, thankfully they leave and take their stupidity with them. What you have done with your dogs was stupid, and you do not deserve to own dogs - it requires adult type responsibilty, which you have not shown here. Go whine elsewhere.
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Re: Aggression-in general
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#62050 - 04/30/2003 01:33 PM |
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Dee Dee,
That was me who released my dog, not Linda. Having had pet dogs all my life, I know that a dog fight is more likely to occur if my dog is restrained while being approached by an unrestrained dog. It's because of factors such as having a tight leash, and the dog not having the option to retreat and being at a disadvantage. Having seen a few pretty serious dog fights in my time, this is not something that I want to be in the middle of, with a leash potentially wrapping around my legs. Not only would I be in a good position to be bitten, but I would not be in a good position to stop the fight. I am 5'1" and 120lb., and am no match for a determined GSD, so in the middle of a fight is not where I want to be. Plus, I did not want my dog to be attacked while on leash and have the experience leave an impression on her, creating an on leash aggression issue. This is a working dog training for SAR, and aggression problems are cause for dismissing her from training, so I do take this very seriously.
My obedience trainer told me that I handled the situation correctly. According to her, stepping in between the dogs and yelling at the advancing dog just sends the message to my dog that I'm upset, so she should be too, and that a tight leash and no means of retreat will put the dog into a defensive state. Also, the body language of the advancing dog was such that I might have been bitten trying to protect my dog (I happen to know that this dog has threatened people in the past). I do know how to break up a dog fight without reaching into it, and there were other people around who could have helped do so if a fight had occurred, including the other dog's handler.
I'm sure there are those here who would disagree with my handling of the incident, but it worked in this instance. My dog is safe and sound, and so am I.
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Re: Aggression-in general
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#62051 - 04/30/2003 01:36 PM |
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Thank you, Will. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Aggression-in general
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#62052 - 04/30/2003 02:24 PM |
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Sorry Lisa about the mix up in names-from what I have read from you on the forum-you know your dog and can handle it appropriately, I still however would not have let my dog go...but that is me-ignore the rest of my comment it was directed at Linda.
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Re: Aggression-in general
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#62053 - 04/30/2003 02:31 PM |
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That's OK. I'm not recommending that everyone do the same thing in every situation. It seemed to be what was called for in that particular instance, but I wouldn't tell anyone that's what they should do.
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