Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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QUOTE: OK you guys...what do you use for training treats for teeny tiny pups? END
I forgot to add that I like the human-grade turkey jerky with no salt added. It breaks up nicely and doesn't make a mess. (I too have to have treats for a big guy and a little guy.)
That I get at the health-food store, but I think I saw it at Trader Joe's too.
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Mila - your comment of "No wonder why 99% of dogs can't be motivated by praise alone. You start them so early with training treats. " indicates a complete lack of understanding on the principles of dog training. My advice to you is to read and not post and new trainers should ignore Milas comments !!!!!
If you have a food dehydrator(or you can use your oven) it is pretty easy to make your own beef jerky(or other meat) - just don't use any seasonings on it. If you can get a cheap roast, just cut into slices about one quarter to three eights of an inch thick and place on the dehydrator tray or put on baking sheet and place in oven on lowest heat with the door propped open just a teeny bit. Monitor progress - its "done" when you can still bend it a little but it doesn't "snap"- I rotate the trays about half way thru the process. If you need small pieces just cut it up with strong shears. Makes lots and is alot cheaper than commercial products. Dogs rally seems to like it! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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I'd also give a hearty recommendation for Charlie Bears, they've worked great for me......And Cindy, I can't wait to get your new girl on the sleeve at the next seminar......Of course........I'll have to be kneeling for her to reach the sleeve...hehe! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I would like to request that photos of this be posted after the next seminar.
Since the day Chief ED told me bout that 99% of dogs im really wonderin if it is true and why? Then I found this thread, which somewhat explains something to me.
I'm aint no expert and never will, but I'm glad cause I got a lifetime to learn. Got two dogs now who dont need treats since birth, Ive seen enough pups to say it can be done.
Now tell me how do you know a very young pup (I assume for you to cut your training treats in small pieces for her) needs a food treat for her to enjoy training. Is it included in Your principles of dog training, have you tried the easier to prepare Sincere Praise?
Chief you can certainly tell them to ignore me but not the TRUTH that is staring right at their faces. If you have found the time to post rudely at me why not take another time to answer my query.
Mila
I don't think you understand the principal of treats for the purpose of training but look at it like this. Dog will if it likes the treat will do anything you want roll over, etc. to get that treat & definitely is an incentive to the dog & makes for easier training on the handler.
It's not important to give a treat 100% of the time & praise is also important.
Treats are just another training aid and not to use it will surely slow your training down
What kind of comment it that?!!! Why wouldn't you use treats for a puppy? How many puppies have you trained? What experience do you bring to this discussion ON TREATS??
Yes, that was my reaction too.........I'm glad you spoke up!
Agreed!
Mila,
Clearly you do not understand motivational training. I advise you to learn about it, and try it on a variety of dogs before you continue to comment on it.
Back to topic:
I like to dice up the Natural Balance roll dog food. I can get it as small as I want, it doesn't stick together (it is a little crumbly) and it's more balanced than a treat because it is formulated to be dinner.
For easily upset tummies, their kibble can be soaked and baked. It makes a chewy, lumpy sort of "biscuit"
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Now tell me how do you know a very young pup (I assume for you to cut your training treats in small pieces for her) needs a food treat for her to enjoy training. Is it included in Your principles of dog training, have you tried the easier to prepare Sincere Praise?
If you pay attention to your dog, this is EASY.
Try the training WITHOUT a treat....pay attention!
Try the same thing WITH a treat...your dog will tell you if they enjoy it more with it. (if you are paying attention)
Some of my dogs prefer a game of tug, while others prefer food. Praise is the BASIS of all of it, regardless of what the dog likes best. Giving the praise a value (like food or a game) makes praise more powerful later in the dogs life.
Remember, I posted originally about what to use for treats for a THREE POUND Welsh Corgi that has an attitude. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />
If you want to start another thread about how it's better to train your way (no treats) have at it.
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