 Re: Is this a Malinois?
[Re: Robert VanCamp ]
#88198 - 11/05/2005 03:13 AM |
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Please smile when you say that, Robert <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
She doesn't often bite, but she can....
Thanks for all the input, folks, and for (most of) the comments. It's been interesting, as she was a completely unknown quantity when we got her from the rescue centre.
My 'uneducated' view was that she looks very much like many pics of 'pure' Mals on the web(especially in colouring), apart from her being a bit long in the back and having a rather 'heavier' muzzle & bigger ears.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v693/rogerb40uk/malinois.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v693/rogerb40uk/idmal1.jpg
Her level back & relatively straight back legs are definitely not, IMO, from 'GSD genes'.
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Re: Is this a Malinois?
[Re: Robert VanCamp ]
#88199 - 11/05/2005 03:54 AM |
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Looks a lot like the gsd/lab cross we had here in rescue about a year ago. Labs shouldn't be on any bad lists. Three pages and you still think it's a MalX?????? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Is this a Malinois?
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#88200 - 11/05/2005 09:36 AM |
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Well, you are only the second person who seems to think she is not, jeff <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
It's not that important to me, just satisfying my curiosity <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Is this a Malinois?
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#88201 - 11/05/2005 03:17 PM |
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Color is useless when determining breeds in mutts.
What I don't see in that dog are any of the skeletal traits that you see in the Belgians. It's been my experience that GSD and Mal crosses tend to get a lot of the Malinois skeletal traits. I've owed Xs and you can usually see the pinheads, the rib cage angles, and the tight and high rear end in almost any MalX.
None of those things are there.
I'd guess a GSD and a lab or Golden or some other mixed mutt.
The other thing is that Malinois aren't exactly well represented in the general pet population anywhere in the world, they are fairly rare. Those that are out there are usually kept pretty well.
When I was in Belgium we were walking with a trainer we met an his Malinois. . .and people on the streets were asking him what kind of dog it was??????
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Re: Is this a Malinois?
[Re: Robert VanCamp ]
#88202 - 11/05/2005 03:47 PM |
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Well, I appreciate you taking the trouble to express opinions, Robert, although I think it's a pity you felt the need to use such disparaging language.
(Do you feel that cross-breeds are 'lesser' dogs in some way?)
Next I shall ask for comments on all of the above from my trainer; he has been training dogs for 36 years and is Belgian <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Is this a Malinois?
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#88203 - 11/05/2005 03:50 PM |
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Hey, Rob's in a good mood you havn't seen is disparaging mood yet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Is this a Malinois?
[Re: Roger Blowers ]
#88204 - 11/05/2005 04:39 PM |
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Dear Roger,
You live in a very nice area. A lot of British and German living there.
I don't think you'll have to get any kind of licence for a dog like that. You can even say it's a Collie/Labrador mix. Who's gonna prove it isn't?
It's impossible to tell how much Mali the dog might have. Also, as Robert says, it could come from a mixed dog, perhaps from a Mali/Labrador Mix and a German Shepperd, who knows?
The thing is you have a wonderful dog. And the same way as we do with our relatives, if they have some (any amount) of our blood in them, they are part of our family. I guess you can say, as long as my dog has some Mali in it, I will call it a Mali.
Robert is right when he says you don't see Mali's on the streets. If this dog was in the USA I would go with Robert. But the dog is in Spain, and you should see how many stupid dog owners we have here. Anything can happen. We have a lot of good ones too, but tons of bad ones.
Have fun with your dog.
Pedro.
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Re: Is this a Malinois?
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#88205 - 11/05/2005 06:35 PM |
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It seems like you want it to be a MalX. I really doubt that it is. I have been around a lot of dogs that looked like that or similar. I would just get a Mal since you seem to like them so much. Then, you would probably curse me for it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Is this a Malinois?
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#88206 - 11/05/2005 06:39 PM |
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we have some Mal Xs cropping up here in Virgina, some of them are K9s. I don't think they were intentional but were "OOPS" litters.
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Re: Is this a Malinois?
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#88207 - 11/05/2005 09:17 PM |
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"Do you feel that cross-breeds are 'lesser' dogs in some way?"
Don't start making stupid inferences, or rather assumptions as that term would be more correct, from my using the word mutt.
Dennis is right, if I was being disparaging you'd know it.
I don't have a problem with the term mutt, and neither do dogs. . .so it isn't desparaging.
I actually advocate the limited crossing of the working Malinois into the working GSD population.
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