Re: Wounded Sergeant Fights for a 'Best Friend'
[Re: Will Rambeau ]
#89920 - 11/22/2005 09:48 AM |
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Will
Why is it eveytime I post you are as rude as you can get.
I respect most of your post and have even want to ask you some questions, but you would only be rude.
The post I posted did have the infor. it need to make the statement I did. I was not tring to challeng anyone!
I am sorry if I offended any of our vets it was not intended that way.
I do a some of work with sevice dogs and the effects they have for the healing of a tramma and I'm looking at the the fact the dog would help this solider to heal completely. I would want and fight for that for all of our soliders. Not just this one.
Why do you wish to offend and be-little me each time I post?
I have nothing agianst you?
You are right my statement about the dog miss the bomp on the truck was wrong. And I am sorry.
I would like to be able to learn more from you and others about the dog training, but at this point each time I have an oppoin you don't like you react like a angry fighting dog.
Chris if I have offended you personnally I didn't mean to and I am sorry ------ please forgive me.
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Re: Wounded Sergeant Fights for a 'Best Friend'
[Re: Valerie Oneill ]
#89921 - 11/22/2005 09:56 AM |
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Valerie -
Notice that I didn't comment on your original post until you felt the need to make your comments to Chris. I let your original comments slide and didn't make a comment although I know that you don't know what you're talking about, but when you complained about Chris, your behavior and sarcastic and inane comments needed to be pointed out.
Sorry if you feel that I'm rude for pointing out the truth, but when you make posts like that I'm going to comment when you're in the wrong.
And I'm not picking on you in any way - did you think for a moment that maybe it's just your posting? Funny that you don't mind being sarcastic and rude to others, but when someone points out your behavior you claim that you're being picked on.
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Re: Wounded Sergeant Fights for a 'Best Friend'
[Re: Kristen Cabe ]
#89922 - 11/22/2005 10:18 AM |
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I'm going to follow this story to its conclusion if I can. If I were to bet what was going to happen I would say she'll get the K9. This is too much of a PR opportunity for the politicians and USAF to pass on. Just imagine all those warm and fuzzy photos of a young Purple Heart recipient and her(sic) dog. Is it the right thing to do? Hell no imho <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />. What I would suggest that she do is purchase the dog or replace it with another detector K9. Wardogs
http://www.uswardogs.org/id142.html
is already passing the hat for her.
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Re: Wounded Sergeant Fights for a 'Best Friend'
[Re: Valerie Oneill ]
#89923 - 11/22/2005 10:30 AM |
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I think Will is a little blunt with alot of his responses but perhaps a better way to look at it is passionate about his point of view which I see nothing wrong with.
I tend to lean on the side of compassion for the airman because of what she has been through & he feels the need for the dog to be put back in service.
Nothing wrong with either side of view in my own opinion
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Re: Wounded Sergeant Fights for a 'Best Friend'
[Re: robert sayre jr ]
#89924 - 11/22/2005 11:06 AM |
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Nothing wrong with either side of view in my own opinion
I can't disagree more with this .
On 1 side some would have this dog return to 1 person who is recovering . Thus taking the dog away from the job it was trained to do greatly increasing the chances there may be more soldiers hurt like the Sgt. (or worse ) because the dog wasn't there .
On the other side some would have this dog keep doing the job it was trained to do in order to keep many people safe .
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Re: Wounded Sergeant Fights for a 'Best Friend'
[Re: Jim Nash ]
#89925 - 11/22/2005 11:24 AM |
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I don't really believe that there is not a dog to take thats one place although I can't back that statement up.
Futhermore if you want to talk about cost to replace that dog versus cost rehabilitation for that airman, it could even out.
Some things we don't know so therefore I will stand by my statement.
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Re: Wounded Sergeant Fights for a 'Best Friend'
[Re: robert sayre jr ]
#89926 - 11/22/2005 12:07 PM |
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I don't really believe that there is not a dog to take thats one place although I can't back that statement up.
They need all the good dogs they can get over there . You wouldn't be replacing it you would just be taking it from others who could have used that dog to help keep them safe .
Futhermore if you want to talk about cost to replace that dog versus cost rehabilitation for that airman, it could even out.
My main care in this issue is keeping people safe .
But talking of costs think about the costs(on families , soldiers and civilians bodies and in rehabilitation for them )if more people got hurt or killed because that dog wasn't there doing it's job .
Once again there is no replacement issue . They don't have enough to begin with . You would just be taking from some to give to others .
I feel for the Sgt. but I certainly don't want to see more people hurt like her or worse killed because that dog wasn't there .
What she needs now more that ever is PEOPLE to help her move on . If others think a dog can do it I hope they band together and get her a therapy dog .
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Re: Wounded Sergeant Fights for a 'Best Friend'
[Re: Valerie Oneill ]
#89927 - 11/22/2005 01:30 PM |
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Valerie,
One more thing - I looked at your post history. With the exception of this post, I have replied to posts of yours exactly *one* time. So why are you saying something like the "Why do you wish to offend and be-little me each time I post?"
If you want to play the exaggeration game, let's do so in PM.
< shakes head >
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Re: Wounded Sergeant Fights for a 'Best Friend'
[Re: Will Rambeau ]
#89928 - 11/22/2005 03:54 PM |
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Valerie,
Make no mistake, this is NOT a Therapy Dog we are talking about here. While I don't discount the benefit Therapy Dogs provide, this dog is NOT a Therapy Dog. The training that this dog has had makes it a very valuable asset on the battlefield.
While I have no doubt that a Therapy Dog would certainly help the handler in question, the dog she WAS handling should be reassigned to another handler so as to provide the greatest benefit to those in harms way.
If the wounded handler still is in need of a Therapy Dog, then perhaps a second dog trained specifically for that should be donated instead.
Of course, I agree with Dennis as to the final disposition this will most likely have. We live in a society that has become too PC and touchy-feeley for any other outcome, really <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Wounded Sergeant Fights for a 'Best Friend'
[Re: robert sayre jr ]
#89929 - 11/22/2005 03:57 PM |
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I don't really believe that there is not a dog to take thats one place although I can't back that statement up.
Below is a picture of me working a K9 who left for Iraq this month. I was helping to get him up to all ready and certified for deployment. My post have 17 individual kennels, there is suppose to be a dog in each one of them. We have 5. Since the War on Terror, these dogs are getting wounded, sick, burned out and therefore are being retired at a very fast rate, we do not have enough dogs to just keep letting people take them home as healing therapy dogs. This is just silly.
Futhermore if you want to talk about cost to replace that dog versus cost rehabilitation for that airman, it could even out.
The dog isn't going to make her walk without a limp, or heal her wounds. She is going to need rehab with or without the dog, so there is no trade off at all there. When I was in Iraq I had a dual purpose EDD with me for something like 2 months, that was as long as our dog program could support our mission. Why? Just not enough dogs. I used the hell out of that dog, for bites and explosives detection. We were doing route clearing one day ansd my dog found an IED buried, and helped in countless other ways. Then all of a sudden one day I'm told our dog won't be with us anymore. so it really pisses me off when I hear that a perfectly good ED Dog is going to be retired in it's prime to please an emotion filled request. When we are running short on these life saving 4 legged soldiers. Below is an ED dog that I'm working for his deployment to Iraq, my post waited a year and half for this dog. I'd say their is a shortage. Remember Lackland is a big operation, but they supply all branches of service with dogs, as well as special detatchments.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/cjduhon/100_0485_edited.jpg
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