Re: Dog fight... who's at fault?
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#90433 - 11/25/2005 11:26 PM |
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Actually, two or more dogs and he'll react, if they are rotties or something close in his size. What I did didn't diminish his ability to protect from a dog that's a real threat. I don't see dogs smaller than him as real threats and that's what I taught him. I should also add, I'm a novice, don't try what I did.
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Re: Dog fight... who's at fault?
[Re: Barbara Erdman ]
#90434 - 11/25/2005 11:50 PM |
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Barbara,
There, I spelled your name right this time <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> I see what you ment now...I was picturing you correcting your dog for a suprise attact from ANY dog.
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Re: Dog fight... who's at fault?
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#90435 - 11/25/2005 11:57 PM |
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I only corrected for dogs under approx. 80 lbs. Big dogs aren't usually the problem.
Everyone spells my name that way, I'm used to it. A bar and a bra, sounds exciting <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> lol
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Re: Dog fight... who's at fault?
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#90436 - 11/26/2005 12:10 AM |
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it is hard enough to pay full attention to everything that is going on when you have just one dog on a leash. three dogs off leash is really not responsible, sorry. i suggest you take your dogs on separate walks, or get two friends who are good dog handlers to walk your other two dogs with you.
i also like my dog to have time off-leash, but i only do it in places where if he does run into another dog, they are not defending turf. i keep him under voice control, and i have a short tab on his prong collar at all times, so that if i misjudge a situation and he gets embroiled in something, then i have a way to take back control quickly.
most of these places are national forest trails that get very little traffic, dogs are allowed to be off leash, and i have to drive to them. it is worth it. is there a similar sort of place you could drive to so your dogs could have some off-leash time without risking problems with neighbors or law enforcement?
and i would add, that even in these remote areas, it is important to be alert at all times to what is going on with your dog, and what is coming down the trail. my dog is trained to sit as soon as he sees another dog, and wait for me to release him, after i've consulted with the other dog's owner, evaluated the other dog's demeanor and approach, and decided it is ok for them to interact.
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Re: Dog fight... who's at fault?
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#90437 - 11/26/2005 05:42 AM |
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Re: Dog fight... who's at fault?
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#90438 - 11/26/2005 05:46 AM |
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Sorry I didn't get this in with the quote above.
Barbara, are you serious about this? Do you think your dog "knew" why you "ignored" him except when you "berated" him?? Do you think he understood his berating was for the dog behavior hours ago?? Just curious.
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Re: Dog fight... who's at fault?
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#90439 - 11/26/2005 06:49 AM |
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In my town any dog off a conventional leash is liable..they do not acknowledge ecollars. Ryan I would not say your dog is aggresive, all I can say, as the owner of a dog aggresive dog (a Pit) you know it when you see it, and you get no second chances. Your dog in my opinion showed remarkable restraint.........
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Re: Dog fight... who's at fault?
[Re: Ryan Burley ]
#90440 - 11/26/2005 09:37 AM |
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Personally I would never dare having three unleashed dogs running free around. In this case I believe you are less guilty than the other party since the other dogs were unsupervised, able to cross their property and trying to attack your dog. If the attack had happened in their property, which could have been possible, than you would have been at fault.
I had a similar experience. I know my dog is dog aggressive so I always try to have a hard leash and the e-collar on the dog. As I was hiking with my dog I stopped near this lake with my dog and two small dogs (puddles I think) unleashed come running towards my dog. At that moment my dog did a fast down ( I was surprised because he usually barks and tries to attack if they get close enough, and that way the other unleashed dogs stay away) and he fooled me by thinking finally he might not be aggressive towards this breed. I did tell the other dogs NO and to back off but they kept coming while my dog was down and I in front of him. As soon as the dogs got close enough he jumped fast from the down right at them and ready to kill. I don't think he was able to bite because I had him on the leash and corrected him fast, but the other dog got so scared that she yelped, and initially I though he did bite.
Than the owners coming behind their dogs, like I was at fault that their dogs were unleashed, tell me you have to put a muzzle in your dog when you take him for walks.
I do have a muzzle and I kind of see their point but what if an aggressive dog attacks my dog and he is defenseless?
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Re: Dog fight... who's at fault?
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"ignoring him for the rest of the day except for berating him for what he did...all day long."
I don't get this at all. Is this really what you meant to say? I'm a novice too, so I'm trying to read as much as possible on EFFECTIVE corrections, and it would seem to me that this tactic would definitely fall under unfair corrections, as a correction has to be issued in under 2 seconds to stand a chance of being effective. I have some serious doubts that this poor dog has any idea what he's done to P you off so bad that he's ignored and berated all day. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Dog fight... who's at fault?
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#90442 - 11/26/2005 10:33 AM |
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Sorry I didn't get this in with the quote above.
Barbara, are you serious about this? Do you think your dog "knew" why you "ignored" him except when you "berated" him?? Do you think he understood his berating was for the dog behavior hours ago?? Just curious.
Then I did. Now from all I've read I'm inclined to think maybe not, but I also think dogs understand more than people give them credit for.
Dog aggressive dogs, and dog fights are scary, especially if you've never seen anything like it before. I said I didn't have a clue. Please don't ridicule me too hard <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />, I fixed the problem. That's what counts... I was just trying to do everything I could think of to communicate to him that the behavior was completely unacceptable to me and I wouldn't tolerate it.
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