Lisa Ewan wrote 01/23/2006 07:57 AM Re: Yelled at for Prong Collar [Re: Ian McVey ] #95633 - 01/23/2006 07:57 AM
Lisa Ewan Webboard User Reg: 12-11-2005 Posts: 232 Loc: Manchester, U.K. Offline	Thanks Ian, as they're relatively inexpensive I think I'll try one and see how he is on one and take him to class with it. The only trouble is if he starts to pull towards other dogs or is noticed to have tension in the lead whilst heeling I know the trainer will say he needs a 'halti' and I'm not going there, 'no way' <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Mike J Schoonbrood wrote 01/23/2006 08:22 AM Re: Yelled at for Prong Collar [Re: Lisa Ewan ] #95634 - 01/23/2006 08:22 AM
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005 Posts: 2784 Loc: Toronto, ON Offline	Quick question on prongs.... what makes the Sprenger's better than the petsmart ones other than build quality? Does it have a different effect on the dog or something? Also, has anyone ever used the little rubber caps on their prong that the pet stores sell to "soften" the blow? Would they be good for particularly soft dogs that don't need much correction? Or does it not matter? I've been using a PetSmart prong for a while, the chrome plating is starting to peel off around the rings that the leash clasps onto, time to buy a new one soon. Now I'm debating wether I should go with the smaller links as someone suggested. Under serious distraction the prong I have doesn't have a whole lot of effect on my dog, but under minor distractions he doesn't need much correction at all.
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Mundy Kiester wrote 01/23/2006 10:29 AM Re: Yelled at for Prong Collar [Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ] #95635 - 01/23/2006 10:29 AM
Mundy Kiester Webboard User Reg: 12-15-2005 Posts: 16 Loc: Idaho Offline	While I was going through and reading this topic, I had to jump in. I have a Husky mix who always wants to pull, so I have to use a prong; she'll pull my arm out of my socket if I don't use one. (exaggerating a bit here) Now I don't know if anyone else has gone through this, but when people see me walking her with the prong, I get a lot of dirty looks, and snide remarks about how awful the collar is and looks. When I'm out walking her in public places where there are lots of people, I just put a bandanna around the prong. That solves getting dirty looks from the uneducated and inexperienced, and I can enjoy my walk with my dog without rude people glaring at me. Problem solved. 'Lord, help me to be the person my dog thinks I am' author unknown
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Antone Jones wrote 01/23/2006 11:19 AM Re: Yelled at for Prong Collar [Re: Mundy Kiester ] #95636 - 01/23/2006 11:19 AM
Antone Jones Webboard User Reg: 11-16-2005 Posts: 48 Loc: Eustis, Fl Offline	Quote: ...Now I don't know if anyone else has gone through this, but when people see me walking her with the prong, I get a lot of dirty looks, and snide remarks about how awful the collar is and looks... This is sorta what I'm afraid of. The Petsmart I got to and work at is in a "nicer" part of town (people drive Bentleys, Rolls Royce, Porsche...). These people and the store trainer are very willing to let you know their disgust with what you're doing and I'm not one to take it very lightly either. I need to make up little "business cards" that have Prong Collar info on them. When someone gives me a bad look, I'll slip them a card and tell them to read it and say, "These are the primary reasons why I use this collar." Then I'll tell them that I put it on myself (leg AND neck) first and that I would never imagine hurting any animal. See how that goes... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Cane Corso
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Laura Waddell wrote 01/23/2006 11:54 AM Re: Yelled at for Prong Collar [Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ] #95637 - 01/23/2006 11:54 AM
Laura Waddell Webboard User Reg: 04-17-2003 Posts: 138 Loc: Offline	Quote: what makes the Sprenger's better than the petsmart ones other than build quality? Does it have a different effect on the dog or something? The Sprenger is made of solid stainless, as opposed to the nickel plated ones made by Aspen (the petco/smart knockoffs), which is why yours is flaking. And take a new Sprenger collar and rub a link over your arm, and then do it with a knockoff. You'll find the tips of the Sprenger prong are machined much better, and are almost "soft". The cheap ones are pretty bluntly cut and tend to snag and be sharper. And definitely the build quality is higher, the Sprenger uses solid plates as opposed to those long clip looking ends on the Aspen (which I've seen fail and fall apart more than once).
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Mike J Schoonbrood wrote 01/23/2006 12:02 PM Re: Yelled at for Prong Collar [Re: Laura Waddell ] #95638 - 01/23/2006 12:02 PM
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005 Posts: 2784 Loc: Toronto, ON Offline	Quote: as opposed to those long clip looking ends on the Aspen (which I've seen fail and fall apart more than once). You mean the coiled things that my dogs hair gets stuck in n makes me feel bad when I take it off along with some of his hair? Yeah that's a good reason for the sprenger alone if it solves that problem. So the PetCo and PetSmart ones are the same? My friend got hers at PetCo, I got mine at PetSmart, mine's easier to put on/off than hers, but I guess it could be machining tollerences coming into play there. I'll be buying one of the sprenger's soon.
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Scott Yang wrote 01/23/2006 12:32 PM Re: Yelled at for Prong Collar [Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ] #95639 - 01/23/2006 12:32 PM
Scott Yang Webboard User Reg: 12-15-2005 Posts: 30 Loc: NV Offline	re: Sprenger collars I just bought one this weekend after comparing them directly to the Aspen brand. The difference in quality is impressive - particularly the feel of the prong ends. They appear to be more comfortable for a dog.
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Mundy Kiester wrote 01/23/2006 02:39 PM Re: Yelled at for Prong Collar [Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ] #95640 - 01/23/2006 02:39 PM
Mundy Kiester Webboard User Reg: 12-15-2005 Posts: 16 Loc: Idaho Offline	Mike, Have you heard of the "Good Dog" collar; they're made by Tripple Crown? These work very similar to a prong, but the collar is made of a hard plastic. There was another thread that was talking about them in December. Opinions vary on these, but I've used them on some of the dogs I have trained, and they worked just as good as the prong. I don't own one, because I have a prong, but these look a lot less intimidating to beginners vs. the prong, and it serves the same purpose. 'Lord, help me to be the person my dog thinks I am' author unknown
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Mike J Schoonbrood wrote 01/23/2006 05:22 PM Re: Yelled at for Prong Collar [Re: Mundy Kiester ] #95641 - 01/23/2006 05:22 PM
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005 Posts: 2784 Loc: Toronto, ON Offline	Thanks Mundy, I'm not crazy about the triple crown's. I've been using the prong on my boy for almost a year and it's great, I was just curious what the benefit of the sprenger brand is over the el-cheapo petsmart brand <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> My boy has a hard time responding to the prong on some serious distractions, I wouldn't trust anything less to keep him under control.
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Anne Vaini wrote 01/23/2006 05:52 PM Re: Yelled at for Prong Collar [Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ] #95642 - 01/23/2006 05:52 PM
Anne Vaini Webboard User Reg: 07-14-2005 Posts: 775 Loc: Wisconsin Offline	The cheap brands sometimes have square ends on the prongs rather than rounded which can irritate or puncture skin if they are not covered with a rubber cap. The rubber caps are an unnecessary expense for a prong collar with rounded ends. It doesn't change the intensity of the correction at all. The links of the cheap prongs do bend, which can bind up the collar and make it ineffective or cause the collar to pop off. A soft dog may benefit from a larger link size, a hard dog certainly benefits from a smaller link size. I go down to a micro prong for bull breeds 20 - 60lb, but I also have a safety back-up just in case and I use a fine prong for larger dogs. I haven't used a medium, large or XL prong for ages as I find them on the clumsy side.
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