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"The CZ and Slovakian, Hungarian kennels see their dogs going to the police and they rear them for this. "
Very true. Lot of the HU handlers and trainers (almost all are HOT and breeders of what they handle) are from a military K9 background(the whole HU team in 2006 had this background) and/or in K9 units currently.
But, even with the "Hungarian kennels", a very large % are 100% German; Fredrich Mueller had a strong hand in that, plus the Hungarian working group trained for years with Rhienhard Linder (sp). Or German/Czech combo.
And Czech lines, at least the one that husband is working, is not soft on corrections at all.
Kevin S.
That was a great post to read. It even made me stand up and take notice to what I find myself doing alot of the time and that is really making up my mind about a dog after I here where they are from before I watch them work. Then if they prove me wrong I always find myself saying "Well that is not the norm for a dog from there" which after reading your post makes me think what a load of BS.
And just because some one mentioned Czech dogs being softer on corrections I have to say not mine. I have a two yr old czech female that has no problem with corrections as far as them shutting her down anyway. She has been known on a few occassions to come up the leash at me if she feels the correction was unwarranted or I had bad timing.
a loaded gun is not a sentient living creature; it is an inamimate tool.
the description of this dog suggests to me that it is not well socialized. an agressive or shy response by the dog to interactions with other people, that, absent the dog, the owner would consider ordinary and non-threatening indicates a lack of confidence on the dogs' part, and compensation on the owner's part.
my point of view is that a dog should be conditioned and trained so it can be taken anywhere without having to warn people not to approach it and watching it like a hawk to avert bites on benign strangers.
a four legged loaded gun with a mind of its own that may decide to shoot unless the owner actively maintains a comfort zone within the parameters established by the dog/gun, sounds like more of a burden than simply carrying a gun.
the dog seems to be in charge, since you have modified your behavior to accommodate the proclivities the dog has developed.
tom durnell
If you are looking for a good GSD I’d be a lot less concerned about its country of origin than its ability.
it has not been duplicated…this is not good or bad, it’s just the way it is. Many, many people who continue to breed ‘DDR’ Shepherds, especially in this country, are using it as a marketing tool/ploy. Most of these breeders are as bad as those breeding only Black GSDs or White GSDs, b/c the thrust of their breeding criteria seems to be whether the dog has DDR lines and ‘looks’ like a DDR dog.
Now whats wrong with breeding for colour... Although i am not entirely keen on whites being bred unless they have passed a temp test. But i DO make sure that i bred for all the right reasons and sometimes it might be for a black litter...
SORRY PEOPLES but i just had to add that, i know this isnt the place.
There's no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.
Now whats wrong with breeding for colour...i DO make sure that i bred for all the right reasons and sometimes it might be for a black litter...
I can't say I'm inspired by your vision.
I do not bred often but when i do breed it is for all the right reasons...
There are some people in Australia that are making big $$$ from breeding black GSD's to unsuspecting and unaware buyers. And these people are ruining a good gene pool of dogs, which is making it harder for most of us who are trying to do the right thing.
Anyway this is not the place for this sort of discussion. And everyone is entitled to there opinions
There's no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.
a loaded gun is not a sentient living creature; it is an inamimate tool.
the description of this dog suggests to me that it is not well socialized. an agressive or shy response by the dog to interactions with other people, that, absent the dog, the owner would consider ordinary and non-threatening indicates a lack of confidence on the dogs' part, and compensation on the owner's part...
the dog seems to be in charge, since you have modified your behavior to accommodate the proclivities the dog has developed.
tom durnell
Tom, what are you talking about???? Lance made an analogy about PPDs in the wrong hands that made a lot of sense. I understood this to be a rhetorical statement, and was unaware of any particular dog in question here...
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