Connie Sutherland wrote 01/21/2007 12:02 PM Re: Black Stool [Re: Michael_Wise ] #125548 - 01/21/2007 12:02 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Michael_Wise Also, he is doing good this morning, but they would like to keep him one more night. I wonder if he really needs it or if they are keeping him up there and playing with him. I think (B). But that's OK. P.S. I had a dog with terribly acute pancreatitis (after she had a big old yummy munch out of a long-dead, rotten, stinking-in-the-sun roadkill skunk before I saw what she was doing), and the supportive care (such as IV fluids) saved her.
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Michael_Wise wrote 01/21/2007 12:07 PM Re: Black Stool [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #125551 - 01/21/2007 12:07 PM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	Of course with a terrier that IS part of the treatment, isn't it?
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Yuko Blum wrote 01/21/2007 01:04 PM Re: Black Stool [Re: Michael_Wise ] #125555 - 01/21/2007 01:04 PM
Yuko Blum Webboard User Reg: 11-20-2006 Posts: 1002 Loc: Offline	Michael, I'm so happy that this ended well for you and Turbo. Good for you for doing all the research too. As for staying at the vet's, the people there tend to be really nice and caring to the animals so it usually isn't too traumatic for them. Besides, this isn't a pomeranian we're talking about, it's a Jack Russell! From what I've seen those dogs are indestructible Yeah, they probably are keeping him the extra night to play with him... but what are you going to do? It's inevitable, lol. Anyway, I hope he's ok once this episode passes. Are you planning on any diet changes for him? As much as I believe in a 100% raw diet for my dogs, I don't know if I would be feeding raw bones to a dog that has a super sensitive digestive tract with recent bleeding and impactions. Please let us know how this goes and how you proceed from here... hopefully it will help someone else going through this with their dog )
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Michael_Wise wrote 01/21/2007 09:04 PM Re: Black Stool [Re: Yuko Blum ] #125602 - 01/21/2007 09:04 PM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/21/2007 09:13 PM Re: Black Stool [Re: Michael_Wise ] #125603 - 01/21/2007 09:13 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Michael_Wise ... Connie and Cindy Rhodes, I've asked ya'll about THK before(Cindy, I emailed you),but that was with putting RMB's and meat into it. What are ya'll's opinions of THK as a long-term stand alone food? I'm not abandoning raw, but I want to take it as easy on his guts as possible for a while. I think that a growing puppy or an active dog would do better on THK with additional meat (and THK says this, too); the meat does not have to be RMBs. But I'm not a puppy expert. Cindy would know MUCH more. Also, have you considered finding a holistic vet in your area for a consultation? I've been thinking that this kind of situation is just where I'd want a holistic vet with a nutrition specialty.
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Michael_Wise wrote 01/21/2007 11:11 PM Re: Black Stool [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #125616 - 01/21/2007 11:11 PM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	Thanks! THK with meat sounds good to me. I searched the internet and found 2 holistic vets near me that I will give a call tomorrow. Surely one of them will be able to tell me how raw and HGE get along. I also would like to ask them if there is something to do with a diet to help a heart murmur. I didn't mention it before because it was such a small deal compared to the HGE. The first night we took Turbo to the vet he said he heard a small murmur. He said it was small enough that it wasn't causing any problems, but I would like to do something now if I could to help keep it that way. Thanks again.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/22/2007 11:50 AM Re: Black Stool [Re: Michael_Wise ] #125666 - 01/22/2007 11:50 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Michael_Wise Thanks! THK with meat sounds good to me. I searched the internet and found 2 holistic vets near me that I will give a call tomorrow. Surely one of them will be able to tell me how raw and HGE get along. I also would like to ask them if there is something to do with a diet to help a heart murmur. I didn't mention it before because it was such a small deal compared to the HGE. The first night we took Turbo to the vet he said he heard a small murmur. He said it was small enough that it wasn't causing any problems, but I would like to do something now if I could to help keep it that way. Thanks again. What I have read about murmurs in dogs backs up what we read about humans: avoid salt, maintain excellent weight, keep teeth and gums healthy, regular exercise. That'd be great to consult with a holistic vet with a nutritional specialty! I have a feeling that a good food with no grains and no additives (and no salt!) like THK will go over well with a holistic practitioner. http://www.vetinfo4dogs.com/dmurmur.html
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Michael_Wise wrote 01/22/2007 12:25 PM Re: Black Stool [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #125669 - 01/22/2007 12:25 PM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	Thanks Connie. I picked Turbo up this morning and went back to the local vet. I said that he hadn't heard of anyone feeding raw, but today I found out different. Apparently he has some past experience as a vet in the greyhound world. He said that the way alot of the racing teams did it was not near as clean as the way that I was doing it.(Roadkill) That was a while back too though. He said Turbo's bloodwork looked awesome and that other than this, which he didn't think was from the diet, he was in great health. I'm still gonna contact the holistic vet and they do have a nutritional specialty. It just makes me feel better that my normal vet has no quarrels whatsoever with this. He is so good with dogs. Turbo would growl and give the "stink eye" to all the other vets, but with this one he will tolerate just about anything he wants to do with minimal restraint.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/22/2007 12:37 PM Re: Black Stool [Re: Michael_Wise ] #125670 - 01/22/2007 12:37 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: michael_wise Thanks Connie. I picked Turbo up this morning and went back to the local vet. I said that he hadn't heard of anyone feeding raw, but today I found out different. Apparently he has some past experience as a vet in the greyhound world. He said that the way alot of the racing teams did it was not near as clean as the way that I was doing it.(Roadkill) That was a while back too though. He said Turbo's bloodwork looked awesome and that other than this, which he didn't think was from the diet, he was in great health. I'm still gonna contact the holistic vet and they do have a nutritional specialty. It just makes me feel better that my normal vet has no quarrels whatsoever with this. He is so good with dogs. Turbo would growl and give the "stink eye" to all the other vets, but with this one he will tolerate just about anything he wants to do with minimal restraint. AWESOME!! You might want to add your vet to Cindy Easton Rhodes's list of raw-supportive vets!
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Michael_Wise wrote 01/22/2007 08:31 PM Re: Black Stool [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #125760 - 01/22/2007 08:31 PM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland AWESOME!! You might want to add your vet to Cindy Easton Rhodes's list of raw-supportive vets! I wouldn't say he's an advocate or very informed on the subject, but he wouldn't knock someone that had done research and was taking an informed approach. Would that still be a candidate? He also didn't flame me for wanting to take a minimal vaccine approach.
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