Re: Vets on Annual Vacc's.
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#12482 - 09/26/2001 10:20 AM |
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Well, I could be wrong, but I beleive the only vaccination certification ever required to get into different countries is rabies. I have only had one experience where someone at the U.S. border asked me if I had my dogs 'papers' with me. When I said no (I dont' carry a dogs registration with me...besides....many dogs are not even registered....and don't have registration papers) I then said...isn't it the rabies certification you want? The guy didn't appreciate it much, told me that that it wasn't 'them' that I would have trouble with but the Canadian side when I tried to get back into Canada. So, he made me go ask the Canadian border side about it. They were quite baffled and looked at me funny. Asked if my dog had a rabies shot and then said, no problem go across.
My point is that not all border crossing people actually konw the rules either. Both borders were wrong. B.C. does not require a dog to have a rabies vaccination , so I did not need it to get back into the country and the U.S. does require the vaccine and they didn't care if I had it or not.
Others must know the answer as many send dogs back and forth to Germany.
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Re: Vets on Annual Vacc's.
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#12483 - 04/26/2002 05:06 PM |
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I just got done watching emergency vets on the animal planet channel. I'm addicted to this show for some reason, it's a cool show to watch. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
A lady brought in a pembroke welsh corgi pup that was having seizures. She had no idea why. Then about 10 or so mins. after that, her mother brought in it's litter mate that was also having seizures. Right after that her son comes in with another pup (from a different litter ,but same sire and dam) that was also having seizures. The vets at the hospital consulted a toxocoligist about it, and he said it sounded like stricnine (sp?) poisoning. They tested for that and other poisons and came up with nothing. All three pups made it ,but at the end of the show they said that the vets could never find a reason. The yard was checked (where the pups were playing that day) and nothing was found.
The stories on the pups reminded me so much of the book I just read "What vets don't tell you about vaccines". The pups seizuring like they were, reminded me of the stories that the author told about, other people after they had their pups vaccinated, The pups would go into seizures and their brains would swell. That was what the vets on the show said was happening to the corgis.
Of course nothing was mentioned of vaccines when trying to figure out what was happening with the corgi pups, but how many people would actually think of vaccines causing such a reaction?? I sure didn't until after I read that book. I wonder now if vaccines had played any part with the pups.
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Re: Vets on Annual Vacc's.
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#12484 - 04/26/2002 05:19 PM |
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I forgot to add that I most likely won't be doing annual vacc's on any of my future animals. After the puppy shots are through with I think having titers done would be more practical than injecting with the same things every year.
If you think about it.. common sense tells you that if you don't have your children vaccinated every year then why on earth would you do it to your dogs? I have to admit that without having read the book by catherine O'Driscoll I probablly wouldn't have much common sense where vaccines are concerned. I will most certainly continue my research on the whole vaccine matter now. My son was diagnosed with eczema a while back and he's almost due for his next set of shots. I'm probablly looking too far into this ,but why shouldn't I when the health of my loved ones are concerned?
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Re: Vets on Annual Vacc's.
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#12485 - 04/26/2002 05:29 PM |
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You know, this is a very interesting topic to me. I am originally from Spain and people there are not as animal lovers as we are here and thus pets are not as protected and cared for as much as here in the USA. So I have always wondered why dogs in Spain, which hardly ever get vaccinated and are fed crap (I don't even think such thing as Puppy Food exists there), get to live longer than the ones here in the US. My grandparents had a poodle who lived to be 21 years!! They never vaccinated it and fed him table crap. To tell you the truth, while I lived in Spain, I never heard of HD, even though many of my friends had GSDs, Heartworms, or many other things you hear about here. I don't know why this is but after reading this post, I'm not surprised if the over vaccination problem has to do with it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Vets on Annual Vacc's.
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I stopped vaccinating my older dogs years ago, way before it was considered ok. I did this exactly for the reason that Ed says, because I didn't need to keep vaccinating my kids, and I was aware of what titers are due to being in the health care field.My one male is now 12 and lives outside all year long(NY state)and is in great health...........I guess I'm just glad my original thinking and logic has become estblished as being the correct way to go.The truth is I was always quiet about my decision for fear of negative <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> backlash.
I am soooo happy to hear that this is becoming such a mainstream way of thinking!
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Proper vacc
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I have two GSD's, one in which I am giving to my parents. They are both males, they are brothers, and are 6 months old. Both have had staff infections approximately three seperate times, in which it seems as though the antibiotics didn't get rid of it. However, one of my GSDs has cleared up. Not sure if this is common among puppies or if it is a result of vaccinations.
My question to you is, based on you experience what would an ideal set of vaccinations be for a six month old GSD, how often should he be immunized for rabbies and what vaccinations should I have stayed away from and what should I stay away form in the future? I think my vet said something about a parvo or distemper (spell) at one year. Not sure though.
Also with your suggestion is there any room for additional or less vaccines in contrast to your suggestion, as I know some vets practice medicine in different ways. I also understand that geography plays a role. I am from Oklahoma.
I would give you a list of his vaccines but it's late and no one is at the vet's office. I don't suspect my vet is twisted in any way, but I always army myself with addtional info on matters. Thanks a lot.
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Re: Proper vacc
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#155768 - 09/19/2007 09:02 PM |
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I have two GSD's, one in which I am giving to my parents. They are both males, they are brothers, and are 6 months old. Both have had staff infections approximately three seperate times, in which it seems as though the antibiotics didn't get rid of it. However, one of my GSDs has cleared up. Not sure if this is common among puppies or if it is a result of vaccinations.
My question to you is, based on you experience what would an ideal set of vaccinations be for a six month old GSD, how often should he be immunized for rabbies and what vaccinations should I have stayed away from and what should I stay away form in the future? I think my vet said something about a parvo or distemper (spell) at one year. ....
Hi, Justin,
You probably didn't notice, but you replied to a five-year-old thread.
OK, the rabies thing is a matter of law.
1. As for the others, you might want to read this recent thread:
http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=33&Number=155483&Searchpage=3&Main=16295&Words=Connie+Sutherland&topic=0&Search=true#Post155483
You mention shots at one year; does this mean yearly boosters? Yearly boosters are hotly debated these days, and you'll be smart to read up on the subject before you decide about any more vaccinations. JMO.
http://www.leerburg.com/qavaccinations.htm
2. Do you mean staph dermatitis (skin) infections? That would usually be secondary to something else, like scratching because of fleas, allergies, etc.
You are right that no matter what triggered the staph dermatitis, it was probably an immune system problem, and immune system problems can certainly be traced to overvaccination (IMO).
I would be concerned with diagnosing the condition that triggers the staph outbreaks. Why is the dog scratching, etc.? If that isn't being addressed, then the dog(s) can be subject to a cycle of reinfection.
Some of the staph antibiotics are oxacillin, enrofloxacin, amoxicillin with clavulanic acid*, erythromycin, lincomycin, dicloxacillin, and oxacillin. How long were the dogs on the regimen? Were they re-checked at the end of the med to ensure that the staph was cleared up? Sometimes a culture is needed to determine this, when the dog has a history of reinfection like that.
* http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a685024.html
P.S. This is all my opinion only. I'm not a health practitioner.
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Re: Proper vacc
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#155943 - 09/21/2007 07:46 PM |
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Thanks for the reply. By the way, this is the first time I've ever used an online forum, so I'm kind of an idiot in that department.
Everytime the dogs were seeminly cleared from the infection i.e. visually or the medicine was concluded, a few weeks would go by and it would return. I will say that it has not returned in a few weeks, but kind of a waiting game. I should mention it is always by his growing and inner thighs. I did remember him receiving oxacillin (spell) and they would gradually increase the antibiotics potency or just change it too a different one. I am receiving a detailed layout of his vaccination to date and when I am better equipped with what he has I might drop you a line on what the vet says he needs coming up on a year. Well have a good one. Thanks.
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Re: Vets on Annual Vacc's.
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#167051 - 12/05/2007 10:56 PM |
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I've vaccinated my dog every year. There does seem to be complications. My GSD has trouble moving for several months after vaccination. This year seem particularly bad.
I'm going to talk to his vet. Anyone with a similar experience?
MDHZ
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Re: Vets on Annual Vacc's.
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#167058 - 12/06/2007 10:24 AM |
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I've vaccinated my dog every year. There does seem to be complications. My GSD has trouble moving for several months after vaccination. This year seem particularly bad.
I'm going to talk to his vet. Anyone with a similar experience?
MDHZ
Annual boosters? MANY people have similar experiences. Have you read about titer-testing instead? If it's his vet doing it, I would recommend that you read other sources and talk to other people.
And I would get a new vet.
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