Re: Problems with raw feeding
[Re: Amber Morgan ]
#135397 - 03/27/2007 03:15 PM |
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That palpation success sounds really good to me.
And he might be drinking a lot because he's hungry. Good!
"Attempted impaling" indeed......
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Re: Problems with raw feeding
[Re: alice oliver ]
#135398 - 03/27/2007 03:16 PM |
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the blandest raw food you can feed is chicken necks with fat and skin removed. i would feed him that for a week before introducing any other cuts or types of meat. any other part of the chicken is harder to digest and because of fat/skin could exacerbate the problems.
if he did get pancreatitis, he may be sensitive to fat for a while.
if he still has problems, remove all meat, cooked or raw, and no eggs. just plain, boiled WHITE rice ONLY. i'd make a huge pot of it and keep it in the fridge so it's ready to serve.
make sure if you serve chicken broth that all fat is removed! skim it off.
the next poop should be firm. there should be no more vomiting or heaving. if there is, go back a step, no meat, only rice, or fast again with plenty of water on hand.
Ditto.
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Re: Problems with raw feeding
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#135409 - 03/27/2007 03:53 PM |
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That palpation success sounds really good to me.
And he might be drinking a lot because he's hungry. Good!
"Attempted impaling" indeed......
Sounds good to me also. Great Job Amber!!!! Carbon will be pooping normal in no time I bet....
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Re: Problems with raw feeding
[Re: Carol Boche ]
#135444 - 03/27/2007 06:39 PM |
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oh, one more tip: feed very small amounts, more frequently, until he's back to normal. and take it SLOW. don't be in a rush to get him back to his normal food routine.
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Re: Problems with raw feeding
[Re: Carol Boche ]
#135450 - 03/27/2007 06:59 PM |
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oh, one more tip: feed very small amounts, more frequently, until he's back to normal. and take it SLOW. don't be in a rush to get him back to his normal food routine.
I'm not in a huge rush! The rice and chicken meal is a lot harder for me to screw up than raw!
Sounds good to me also. Great Job Amber!!!! Carbon will be pooping normal in no time I bet....
I don't think I've ever paid this much attention to poo.
So far, so good. Carbs has had three meals today...boiled chicken and rice (and that cooked egg I did this a.m.). Still no poop, but no problems either. Watch, now he'll be constipated!
I feel sorry for Carbon. I tried the meat diet once (Atkins-- )and it made so sick I had to give it up!
He's in fantastic spirits. His energy has come back.
Have I mentioned how great the Corgi is doing on the raw, though? He's acting puppy-like and is literally dancing for his food now.
He hasn't pooped, either, today. Is that normal? How often do raw fed dogs go? I know it's less frequently, but I would still like a guideline. Since he just started out, I haven't been adding anything other than the meat. Is now a good time to start with some veggie mush/organ meat? I'd have to double check, but I think he's been on raw now for about 4 days.
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Re: Problems with raw feeding
[Re: Amber Morgan ]
#135451 - 03/27/2007 07:05 PM |
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My dogs go once or twice a day. Sometimes they go every other day, depending on what I feed. I watch them and poop is normal going by Yuko's great description.
He will go, you can always add a little canned pumpkin (not pie filling) to his meal. This helps with both diarrhea and constipation. Funny how that is, but it is true.
I give my dogs about a TBS or two, three times a week, just because they like it. If they get constipated or runny stool they get a little more.
I think a little organ meat for the Corgi would be okay.
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Re: Problems with raw feeding
[Re: Carol Boche ]
#135453 - 03/27/2007 07:08 PM |
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"Pumpkin...It's not just for Halloween anymore!"
I'll pick some up and give him a tad tomorrow, if he hasn't gone.
I'm looking forward to five years from now when I can look back on this and laugh at what a newb I was!
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Re: Problems with raw feeding
[Re: Amber Morgan ]
#135526 - 03/28/2007 10:29 AM |
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Today we had a poop! *And the crowd goes wild!!*
It wasn't very much, and it was soft...but it was formed, with no blood or anything. Considering he's acting normally, it seems unlikely that he has an impaction or anything, right?
The Corgi still hasn't gone...but he's not trying to. I'd be concerned if he was straining or something, but he hasn't even made an attempt or seemed like he wanted to.
I feel strange writing a whole post about poo, but it's really the only indication that, um, everything came out okay in the end. *Har, har*
So...he's been on the boiled diet for two days. When do you think I can start bringing him back into the real world? I know...slowly... but I do have some chicken backs now. I can skin them and have them available whenever.
Does slowly mean one boiled meal, with one small piece of chicken back thrown in, or should the raw and the boiled meals be kept seperately? And how much of the raw should I give? 2 oz? Half a pound? Am I overthinking this?
How would you guys, specifically, do his first couple of days back into the real world of eating? I just don't want a repeat performance of the last fiasco.
I can continue to feed him this rice/chicken diet until Friday when the probiotics arrive. Is that a good idea, or is it likely that he'll become consipated?
I don't have chicken necks yet...just backs, and the other stuff I've mentioned before.
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Re: Problems with raw feeding
[Re: Amber Morgan ]
#135529 - 03/28/2007 10:36 AM |
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You can add plain yogurt as a probiotic for now. That would be okay for the corgi also. Don't forget to keep a can of pumpkin on hand also.
If Carbons poop was formed and normal, then impaction is LOW on the scale, if not non-existent.
I used to worry about that also.
Keep up the good work Amber. Your doing fine....
I personally would not mix the boiled and raw, but you can start weaning him back on raw by feeding him small amounts seperate from his "cooked" meal. And then you watch him for any changes, like the runs and vomiting.
I would switch him over the course of 4 or 5 days, and the 6th day would be all raw.
Hope that makes sense......
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Re: Problems with raw feeding
[Re: Amber Morgan ]
#135531 - 03/28/2007 10:40 AM |
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Today we had a poop! *And the crowd goes wild!!*
It wasn't very much, and it was soft...but it was formed, with no blood or anything. Considering he's acting normally, it seems unlikely that he has an impaction or anything, right?
The Corgi still hasn't gone...but he's not trying to. I'd be concerned if he was straining or something, but he hasn't even made an attempt or seemed like he wanted to.
I feel strange writing a whole post about poo, but it's really the only indication that, um, everything came out okay in the end. *Har, har*
So...he's been on the boiled diet for two days. When do you think I can start bringing him back into the real world? I know...slowly... but I do have some chicken backs now. I can skin them and have them available whenever.
Does slowly mean one boiled meal, with one small piece of chicken back thrown in, or should the raw and the boiled meals be kept seperately? And how much of the raw should I give? 2 oz? Half a pound? Am I overthinking this?
How would you guys, specifically, do his first couple of days back into the real world of eating? I just don't want a repeat performance of the last fiasco.
I can continue to feed him this rice/chicken diet until Friday when the probiotics arrive. Is that a good idea, or is it likely that he'll become consipated?
I don't have chicken necks yet...just backs, and the other stuff I've mentioned before.
I would stick to the present gruel for a few days. I agree with Carol that in a day or two (after the first formed poop) you could add a little low-fat plain natural live-cultures yogurt.
I doubt that he will get constipated. But you could add a little plain cooked pumpkin tomorrow if today and tonight stay good (and they will!).
Pumpkin doesn't cause problems, but he's doing good, so why change anything until his system is totally soothed down?
And YAHOO!, BTW.
I've been logging on every ten minutes looking for your post in between doing real work.
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