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Re: Re: Ed's switch in diet plan for his dogs
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#12971 - 07/25/2001 02:33 PM |
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I agree that you might have it a little rough, with the price of the food, but you will most likley save money in vet bills from health issues that come from dog food in the long run.
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Re: Re: Ed's switch in diet plan for his dogs
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#12972 - 07/25/2001 02:36 PM |
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I have a qustion for some of you guys, look at the price a meat,rice, vitamins etc. in the store,and wholesale, and the cost of dog food. It still usally works out a little more then the dog food per pound, not taking into account the cost of manufacturing it, what do you really believe is being put into the dog food?? Food for thought hu???
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#12973 - 07/27/2001 03:55 PM |
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If you can find a wholesale distributor in you area its not very expensive. I have a friend that runs a deli and gets the meat for me. I pay $13 for 40 lbs. of backs and a $1 a lb. for ground beef.
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Re: Re: Ed's switch in diet plan for his dogs
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#12974 - 07/27/2001 07:37 PM |
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This is probably a dumb question, but has anybody had problems with bacterial infections feeding raw? There are so many food born illnesses that can be gained from raw meats in particular that I wonder if anybody has had problems with salmonela or e-coli in their dogs?
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Re: Re: Ed's switch in diet plan for his dogs
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#12975 - 07/27/2001 09:50 PM |
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Michael,
I consider myself extremely blessed to have 3 extremely healthy dogs. I'm not saving money in vet bills b/c we don't have to make vet visits (except when the girls rip each other apart.......and then it's big bucks at the Emerg Vet..........it all balances out, right?!).
Health in a bloodline is super important to me when I consider a new puppy. Proper nutrition and quality of food is also important. If I could afford it, I would feed Billinghurst's diet, and try to as much as possible.
I also agree w/ the poster who questions what is "really" in dog foods when you compare the price of dog food on a "per pound" basis vs. the real ingredients........at least for me, it is considerably more expensive.
As a biochemist and paramedic, I am well aware what heating/cooking/processing does to food, and therefore when I'm feeding kibble (Innova), I do supplement with the highest quality and most bioavail. forumlas available.
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Re: Re: Ed's switch in diet plan for his dogs
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#12976 - 07/27/2001 10:53 PM |
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Originally posted by Richard Cannon:
There are so many food born illnesses that can be gained from raw meats in particular that I wonder if anybody has had problems with salmonela or e-coli in their dogs?
Nope!!! After watching my dogs eat some of the most disgusting things from chicken and cow poop to field mice and rotting animals, I am not too worried about raw meat.
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#12977 - 07/28/2001 07:22 AM |
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<B>Originally posted by Richard Cannon:
There are so many food born illnesses that can be gained from raw meats in particular that I wonder if anybody has had problems with salmonela or e-coli in their dogs?</>
Dogs and cats do not have the same chemical make-up in their stomaches as humans. They have more acid in their gut than we do which is why they can get by wit eating things that would make us sick.
But remember that the key to a good all-natural diet is FRESH human grade products.
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Re: Re: Ed's switch in diet plan for his dogs
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I have a question regarding Leerburg's comment that dogs would be healthier if they were on an all- natural diet and not vaccinated after their puppy shots.
I have a 2 1/2 year old GSD of German and Dutch bloodlines who was fed purely on premium dry dog food for the first year. Since then she has been on: small amounts of the same dry food, raw chicken bones, cooked vegetable and meat soup and a variety of supplements such as flax seed oil, Vitamin C etc. She is considered by our vet to be of an optimal weight at the moment.
In the last few months she has started to develop a lot of health problems including; pancreatic problems, skin problems (lesions, welts and inscet like bites although it is unlikely she can come in contact with inscets at that time) and conjunctivitis.
These problems have occurred since her last booster vaccination. What do people think? Could there be a correlation?
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Re: Re: Ed's switch in diet plan for his dogs
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#12979 - 07/28/2001 11:24 AM |
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SJ,
I have worked at a vets office since the early 1980's, breed working GSD's and Dobes, am currently a full time all breed groomer. I run my business out of a vet's office and can't tell you all the problems I see with the dogs that I groom. I do firmly believe that vaccinations can create health problems with animals (and humans) You need to read the book, What Vets Don't Tell You About Vaccines. Ed sells it on his website. In all fairness to vets, I believe a lot of them are not aware of the problems that can be caused by overvaccination. The vaccine companies certainly are not going to volunteer any of the negative information....too much money to be made by keeping quiet.
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Re: Re: Ed's switch in diet plan for his dogs
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#12980 - 07/28/2001 09:24 PM |
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Hi,
I've been feeding raw for about a week. But in Las Vegas it's very difficult to find wholesale meats, and I haven't been able to locate any chicken necks. My Sheltie is eating wings just fine, but the Pomeranian can't handle them. I'm breaking into this slowly, and feeding Innova or Solid Gold with the RMB and ground turkey. Any suggestions for finding wholesalers who can accommadate my needs? Also any suggestions on how I can get started and get more confidence in this area would be appreciated.
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