Tracy,
I have just looked on the Pedigree Site, He looks a real Fine Pup and he is much like Dougs in looks. Zidane is a popular Dog it seems
I notice the name of your Dog in regards to the starting letter and i see he is bred in 2006, he is 4 months older than my Fred But over here in Belgium, Holland and Germany, we have to call our Dogs name by the letter of the Alfabet, 2006 was F so i had to pick a name beginning with that Letter
Goran was bred in 2007 so i had a bit of a job to find a suitable name beginning with the letter G
Seems you do not have to do this in the USA, which i think is better, as you can choose the name you like best
Pity about the time of travelling to a Club, you would enjoy it
If i drive for an hour i get reach any of four clubs, so i really am lucky, All our Training is done in the evenings except on Sunday mornings

Steve from what i understand if a kennel is certified by Akc then that may apply here. I know that i would like to end up breeding and if i do I will name the dog so that i can keep up with the blood line.(this is my thought not a fact no de-bates needed)

Steve, alot of people name the pups in a litter by letter because of tradition, but just because of the name on paper, does not mean that this needs to be the call name for the pup. This also helps identify littermates. Now if you meet someone in 5 year with a dog who's name starts with G that is out of the same kennel as Goran, you will know that this dog is a full brother/sister to your dog. It doesn't have much to do with the year of birth, unless the breeder only breeds one litter per year, but that would only be coincidental.

For example, Lyka's name on paper is Caia-Lyka. She is from the C litter. But I wanted to call her Lyka so I call her Lyka. Cujo's name was Elko, from the breeders E litter.

The breeder of my 2 pups didn't adhere to this tradition, so I named them what I wanted to name them.

Most hobby breeders don't breed enough litters to register their kennel name with AKC, and there is no requirement to register your kennel name in order to breed in the US. You can put whatever name you like on the papers. You write a puppy contract with the buyers, and make them agree to attach your kennel name to the end of the pups name, or the breeder chooses a name and the buyers can use any "call name" they want.

For example, Wallace Payne's dog Merlin von Conneforde has the call name "Pedro" even though his papers say Merlin.

Or you can pick a name close to your dogs registered name too , my male Bandit is registered as Banderos. My old male that lives at my parents is registered KAI and I did not like to call him that so I changed it to Sarge, KAi seemed like such a WIMPY name to me I had to change it..

As i said All Dog names go in alfabet order in all kennels over here , i could not change Freds name for say for a name beginnig with E or G etc, 2006 was the letter F
That is what i am saying, there was no way i could pick my own pups name which i really wanted to do,
So whatever Critria for names is put forewards, the Buyer has no choice but to comply with it

 Quote: steve patrick

As i said All Dog names go in alfabet order in all kennels over here , i could not change Freds name for say for a name beginnig with E or G etc, 2006 was the letter F
That is what i am saying, there was no way i could pick my own pups name which i really wanted to do,
So whatever Critria for names is put forewards, the Buyer has no choice but to comply with it

Steve, you are talking about pedigree names. The name that goes on the official pedigree. This is normal, most breeders do this. However, the name that goes on the pedigree, and the name you CALL your dog (Call Name) CAN be different. You can call Fred "Goober Face" as his formal name, while his pedigree says "Fred", nobody can stop you from naming your dog what you wanted to name him.

The pedigree names are just a formality. Some people call their dogs by the name on the pedigree, but most people do not.

And as I said before, the letter of the litter doesn't have to do with the year, but it has to do with which litter the puppy is from.

Lets say I just started breeding, my first litter would be the "A" litter. 3 months later I have another litter, it is still the same year, but this litter is my second litter, so it would be my "B" litter. 3 weeks later I have another litter, this is my "C" litter. And so on.

However, if I sell a puppy to you from my B litter, and his name on the pedigree is "Bernie van 't Zilveren Rivier", but you like the name "Mac" better. His papers will say "Bernie" because he is from the B litter, but you can call him "Mac" all day long.

Yes, you are right, But the fact remains i had no real Choice of Names which was Offical on his Pedigree other than with the Letter F that is regards Fred his real name is 'Fredrick van het Volgerland'
But i wanted to call him 'Eros van het Volgerland' so he is known as 'Fred' Plus a lot of other names that cannot be repeated on here because i would be sensored
and the same with 'Goran' born in 2007
But it is all inrelevent in the end, the Dog is still the same whatever we call them,
But it is nice to have your own Choice offically

 Quote: Steve Patrick

Hello Will
Is the dog in the video wearing an Electic Collar, If so would that be legal in a Competition

Wow, did this thread get off the original subject!
Steve, that was a good question, so to answer you:

Most handlers in SchH will at some time use an e collar for training once they get to training for off leash portion of the trial routine.
But an e collar can not be used during the trial.

About 10 years ago I belonged to a club that wouldn't allow e collars to be used on the training field ( on the idea that if it could be used in a trial, it shouldn't be used in training ) and it was a lot harder to place a correction at the precise moment that it was needed.
I was glad to leave that club when I moved, believe me.

Steve as i understand it you work with Rinus so you should have no problems. Follow his lead and you should excell.I have never seen a Sch 3 that has not worn an e-collar.I allways start with motivational then if dog is a bone head we progress my last choice is the E-collar but THIS IS MY OPINION and opinion are like noses.hope to see you back after your post on schutzhund and puppy protection imprinting

"Hello Will
Is the dog in the video wearing an Electic Collar, If so would that be legal in a Competition?"

That was the question, which was answered by Will: "Most handlers in SchH will at some time use an e collar for training once they get to training for off leash portion of the trial routine. ... but an e collar can not be used during the trial."

THIS:

 Quote: Doug Williams

Steve as i understand it you work with Rinus so you should have no problems. Follow his lead and you should excell.I have never seen a Sch 3 that has not worn an e-collar.I allways start with motivational then if dog is a bone head we progress my last choice is the E-collar but THIS IS MY OPINION and opinion are like noses. ...

in no way answers that question.

Let's heed Ed Frawley's request that you read and not post for a while, Doug, and you can get a feel for the way the forum works.

Thanks.