Before I answer Dave's question, I have to say ...... a little late but .......

Renee,

You DID say what I was trying to say -- only you said it MUCH better than me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> . Thank you!

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Originally posted by Dave Lilley:
So far I have gleaned from responses that inductive techniques may be preferred to compulsion (force)because they are:

1. Easier on the dogs mental well-being
2. More conducive to bonding
3. Less likely to screw up the puppy

Any other reasons?

Yes -- here are a few more:

4. more likely to produce a dog that works because it wants to instead of because it has to.

5. more likely to produce a dog that works in cooperation with you instead of in conflict with you.

6. more likely to produce a dog that accepts your leadership out of trust & respect as opposed to out of fear & coercion.

7. more likely to produce a dog that has learned how to achieve success through you instead of in spite of you.

8. more likely to produce a dog that is capable of working independently & reliably because it has learned to think, to assume responsibility and to take initiative when necessary to complete a task instead of working mostly on command.

9. basically a helluva lot more enjoyable, satisfying, rewarding, and fulfilling for both you and the dog.

If you want, I may even be able to squeeze out a few more <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> altho' my brain cells are on the decline side of the curve.

Richard:

I believe you but remember you train for yourself and you are the boss when you train. I train for SchH and my TD is the boss. If he throws you a training tool and says work this out either you do this or you find another club. I am on my third club now. I'll leave the two handler trick to you I am tired of finding new clubs.

Paul:

No need to explain yourself I enjoy your posts and point of view.

Marks:

For needs this could be very true. I have to admit I have been stuck in a situation where I am out of or forgot to bring food and my training went south really quick. The trick to consistent results is intermittent food reward but with a new learning puppy food must be present at all times. And during these times more than once I wanted to grab my puppy and say how about just paying attention to me rather than that fat belly of your. So thank you for letting me share with you my thoughts and who knows maybe you will adjust your training style slightly after it. Either way. This was an interesting thread.

Ellen:

How much for you to train my pup? LOL.

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Originally posted by Vince P.:
Ellen: How much for you to train my pup? LOL.

Haha, Vince, very funny <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> !! That's like asking me how much to train somebody's husband! It's all in the relationship -- not in the training <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> . I train it -- I keep it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> .