 Re: ?'s on raw feed from the newbie small dog owne
[Re: Carol Boche ]
#183279 - 02/29/2008 02:57 PM |
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OK, wait...Didn't I hear somewhere that when starting out it is better to stick to one protien source for a week or so, then slowly add new protien sources? This was so that you can tell if your dog has any sesitivities or issues with the new meat.?
And chicken is usually the one to start with, as it is easy to digest? I think even half a thigh would be better than a wing, IMO.
And yes, wait on the organs.
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Re: ?'s on raw feed from the newbie small dog owne
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OK, wait...Didn't I hear somewhere that when starting out it is better to stick to one protien source for a week or so, then slowly add new protien sources? This was so that you can tell if your dog has any sesitivities or issues with the new meat.?
And chicken is usually the one to start with, as it is easy to digest? I think even half a thigh would be better than a wing, IMO.
Yes, that would be correct, but I would rather start with something ground than something like wings that have too much fat (makes them ill) and too much bone (for a digestive system not used to raw and will not breakdown and digest properly yet).
And yes Shody, I said the above in my first post, but common sense should warrant something other than wings with those of us that already feed raw.
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Re: ?'s on raw feed from the newbie small dog owne
[Re: Carol Boche ]
#183284 - 02/29/2008 03:13 PM |
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I hope I'm not sounding as tedious as I'm afraid. I really appreciate all these different comments.
I think I'll give her the hamberger tonight, just in case she gets a little runny she won't be stuck in the crate all night with me asleep. She has already had raw hamburger. I still have a little bit of the three dog pouch stuff left and can maybe give that for breakfast until I get back to the store tomorrow.
Should I take the skin off all the chicken due to the fat content?
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Re: ?'s on raw feed from the newbie small dog owne
[Re: Nora Ferrell ]
#183285 - 02/29/2008 03:21 PM |
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Should I take the skin off all the chicken due to the fat content?
When you get the chicken that you are going to start with, I would remove most of the fat for now. I put my fat in a baggie and froze it to use later. Then slowly leave more and more on until you are not removing any.
I would also start with fasting her through the morning meal and then feeding her dinner. That is how I did it.
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Re: ?'s on raw feed from the newbie small dog owne
[Re: Nora Ferrell ]
#183286 - 02/29/2008 03:21 PM |
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I hope I'm not sounding as tedious as I'm afraid. I really appreciate all these different comments.
I think I'll give her the hamberger tonight, just in case she gets a little runny she won't be stuck in the crate all night with me asleep. She has already had raw hamburger. I still have a little bit of the three dog pouch stuff left and can maybe give that for breakfast until I get back to the store tomorrow.
Should I take the skin off all the chicken due to the fat content?
Yes, as posted earlier in the thread, you might want to avoid any possible diarrhea by adding in the skin and fat gradually.
You will not want to go too many meals with no bone, but since you have fed hamburger before, I agree with you that it's OK for her first raw meal.
I start with ground white poultry, then after a meal or two I start chicken backs with the skin off, then after a meal or two I add the salmon oil and E, then after a few more meals I add a teaspoon of liver (working up to 5-10% of the diet), and so on.
After a couple of weeks, I introduce another protein source, then maybe some plain live-culture yogurt.... a little fish ....
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Re: ?'s on raw feed from the newbie small dog owne
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#183297 - 02/29/2008 04:02 PM |
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Nora, I keep meaning to tell you something that I have found very convenient in the past for a small breed. The baby food green beans and/or mixed vegetables are cheap (because you might use a small jar in three days or a "junior" one in a week), simple, already processed, no junk added ....
When you are stretching out the dog's horizons and want to add that smidge of produce, nothing could be easier for a small dog.
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Re: ?'s on raw feed from the newbie small dog owne
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#183306 - 02/29/2008 05:03 PM |
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Connie, great idea.
I actually thought about that for the meat, then I realized it was cooked, then I started reading and discovered they needed the bones and all, but I never once thought about the vegs. For a long time I was thinking 'natural' foods, not natural and 'raw'. Duh!
I don't do a lot of cooking anymore, hence, not a lot of grocery shopping so I am not always stocked up. Cooking for one, everything seems to go bad quickly.
That will be a perfect alternative.
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That is, cooking for one recently. My daughter and grandson will be moving in (divorce) so I will also have a 2 year old here with my new puppy. The dog already knows them but she is super hyper around them. These questions are for another thread which I will start soon.
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Re: ?'s on raw feed from the newbie small dog owne
[Re: Carol Boche ]
#183307 - 02/29/2008 05:09 PM |
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I would also start with fasting her through the morning meal and then feeding her dinner. That is how I did it.
Carol, thanks for that. I might fast her in the morning so I don't have to feed her anymore of the pouch stuff and that will also give me time to go back out to the store.
And, Connie, I can get ground turkey. I will start with that and make the transition.
Great advice, everyone, thanks.
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Re: ?'s on raw feed from the newbie small dog owne
[Re: Nora Ferrell ]
#183309 - 02/29/2008 05:11 PM |
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I won't address the baby moving in, and you are correct to start a new thread, but I also wanted to say that baby food orange squash is handy for a very small dog to use for firming up a slight case of diarrhea. Not the sweet potato, which has a little too much natural sugar for diarrhea (and for dogs, period), but the squash.
Of course, the canned plain (no spice or sugar) pumpkin is excellent too, and the remainder after you use what you need freezes perfectly, even in a zipper baggie.
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Re: ?'s on raw feed from the newbie small dog owne
[Re: Nora Ferrell ]
#183311 - 02/29/2008 05:14 PM |
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... Carol, thanks for that. I might fast her in the morning so I don't have to feed her anymore of the pouch stuff and that will also give me time to go back out to the store.
And, Connie, I can get ground turkey. I will start with that and make the transition.
Great advice, everyone, thanks.
Ideal, IMO. In fact, I have also used ground turkey with an adopted senior who was suspicious of the texture of raw poultry. The ground poultry showed him that he loved it, and then the texture of regular backs became a non-issue.
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