Perhaps I'm misinformed; but, I was under the impression that the dog needed a good foundation of obedience training as a prerequisite of Schutzhund. So..I've been concentrating efforts on her basic education for a well mannered, head on straight, focused type of dog. Please correct me if I'm heading down the wrong road here.
Schutzhund is a goal..but I've yet to locate a club in my neck of the woods within a reasonable driving distance.
So..it seems that I've been really asking too much of Dallas and I will back off per the time element of sit/stay and down/stay. Perhaps that will solve the "slow slide" down issue.
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The only reason I ask is because, in my limited experience dealing with pro-trainers that do AKC performance events, I have found that they are not always on the cutting edge of drive training. The AKC obedience looks different than the Schutzhund obedience and the AKCers dont' understand using play/ball/bite rewards to their best effect. High drive and spirit are not a focus in the AKC obedience ring.
Originally posted by VanCamp: the AKCers dont' understand using play/ball/bite rewards to their best effect. High drive and spirit are not a focus in the AKC obedience ring.
I'll be doing trials with my sissy little retriever dogs dude...don't be giving away all our secrets now!LOL <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
I have sought out several other "trainers" in the area who proclaimed they were "experienced" with Schutzhund but... After interviewing them and witnessing them "work" their dogs; I was not impressed! The vast majority of their dogs "worked" out of fear and it was obvious to me that these "so called trainers" were coming from a different planet and line of communication that I will not accept as a means of training my dog.
The instructor at class is a 30 year veteran of dog training and our "communication" are of the same planet. At least my pup is gaining the benefit of basic education combined with socialization for now.
VanCamp..could you expand upon the differences in AKC Obedience and Schutzhund Obedience? You mentioned drive etc. I don't quite understand?
And please..overlook my grammer and spelling. This micro print is driving me crazy!
Actually my first concern about the dog lying down would be to have hips checked. Having to sit with HD is very uncomfortable and most dogs prefer to lay down rather than stay in the sitting postion. My dog had HD and would lay down after a short stint in the sit position. Just a thought since instead of getting up and running around when breaking the sit (since she is a pup) she lays there and is content to stay in the down. Has she been x-rayed? I would rule out something physical first..
Originally posted by Karmen Byrd: Actually my first concern about the dog lying down would be to have hips checked. Having to sit with HD is very uncomfortable and most dogs prefer to lay down rather than stay in the sitting postion. I am not a sporto - but Karmen is so right. I have 2 GSDs with broken hips and evaluated a few rescues with HD and sitting is not a comfortable position at all, standing or laying down is more comfortable - I'd look into it too.
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