Aaron, what you are saying is like a light-bulb moment for me!!
I remember an occasion a while back where I was so frustrated training him that i decided to teach him a fun trick in hopes of turning my mindset around. I spent literally most of a day trying to get him to roll over and he would NOT do it, he just played dumb the whole time and I gave up and moved on. A couple of days later I had a chewie he wanted and darned if that dog didn't lay down on the floor and rollover to try and convince me to give it to him!! No prompting, no command, just did it and then wagged his tail at me!!
More good than you realize, if you end on a positive note.
If you only train for three minutes, and he complies 90% of the time, and you're able to end positively, you've accomplished far more than training for 30 minutes with only 20% compliance, you getting pissed off, and him ending with a feeling that he "beat" you because he didn't have to actually do anything he didn't want to do.
Even if you don't teach any new commands, you're reinforcing an important skill- HOW to train.
Just like many of the classes we took in school were designed less to teach us specific facts, but geared more towards teaching us how to learn in a general way- sometimes training sessions can simply be beneficial in that they establish a tone and a pattern of cooperation and happy work for the handler and the dog.
Start at the shortest possible time at which you're still getting 100% compliance with commands, reward excessively, and put up the dog happy, still wanting to succeed more.
3 minutes of success beats 30 of failure, any day.
I'm in Bailey, Colorado. It's very rural here and finding a trainer willing to make a go with Taven has been a trial. He's Mr.Hyde when he's around people and it's quite clear.
Hopefully one of the members will pipe up with some good trainer suggestions in your area.
In all honesty the dog does *not* sound like a hard case, just a case of a GSD with a particular temperament that his owner hasn't encountered. I'm going to guess he's not particularly food motivated as a general rule, nor does he have an excess of prey drive.
More random curiosity:
Do you know what lines this dog is out of?
Hopefully one of the members will pipe up with some good trainer suggestions in your area.
In all honesty the dog does *not* sound like a hard case, just a case of a GSD with a particular temperament that his owner hasn't encountered. I'm going to guess he's not particularly food motivated as a general rule, nor does he have an excess of prey drive.
More random curiosity:
Do you know what lines this dog is out of?
You don't know what a relief it is to hear you say that - I thought for sure he was an immovable rock! He actually does work better for food than toys, although stuffed animals are his particular love - he loves to destroy them that is. No excessive prey drive, doesn't really retrieve.
I'd have to look at his pedigree again, but I remember his dad's name was Davos vom Grafenthal and mom was Donna von Prevent.
If I describe his aggression, will that help anyone?
He's a stubborn, smart dog.
He wants to work with you, he just needs to learn how.
Go back to square one with him. Pretend he's a puppy, and start over without grudges. Do the groundwork, and start the training with a different approach and attitude.
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