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 Quote: Dave Ferguson

I wonder if they would say I hoard Reptiles. I have 100s.

off topic: but that moth thing named Bob, did you count him?


I feel bad for everyone involved in animal hoarding cases, including the people that had to take them away, etc. The money that these people spend to attempt to feed them all I'm sure was resulted in some sacarifice to their lives. As Ingrid stated, sad from so many angles....

No. I did not count Bob. I he was not where I left him on my window outside. =(

I was joking about the me hoarding animals.

I bred and sell them. I do about 35 reptile shows/expos a year all over the US. Fl, Tx, Mi, IL, WI, PA... Just to name a few. I also sale them via the mail.

I counted my hatchlings and for sale Reptiles in that list. And when you have 1 snake that can 40-80 babies. It is not hard to get into the 100s.

But all in all. It is my main source of income and has been since I was about 15 years old. I have been keeping Reptiles since I was 10, or 11.
And not a bad source of income at that.

Other then Training Horses and working with peoples dogs. It is the only job I have ever had.

I would not pay for everything I noted in my last post, plus air far for taking this stuff to and from expos in the US if my profit margin was not what I spend plus another 70% annually.

So, for me its my job. But, it is a labor of love.

 Quote: Dave Ferguson

I was joking about the me hoarding animals.

Dave I assumed you were joking, no intentional reply that you weren't.

Just curious, does anyone know why counties/cities limit the number of dogs? Did it originate from hoarding situations or?

 Quote: aimee pochron

 Quote: Dave Ferguson

I was joking about the me hoarding animals.

Just curious, does anyone know why counties/cities limit the number of dogs? Did it originate from hoarding situations or?

A fair number do because of hoarding or puppymills. It allows them to get services involved sooner rather than later. I'm not sure that making these folks more paranoid about people visiting is the right way to deal with the problem though.

It depends what you mean by limit. In my town (roughly 125K) I live in city limits. You have to license your dogs and if you own more than 3 you have to get an annual small animal permit which costs 30 bucks a year. They say that they have the right to make an appointment to inspect your place if you have a permit but they have never did it to me....

I think a lot of times this type of limit is imposed so that someone does not accumulate a ton of dogs that they leave in their backyard to yap their heads off at all hours of the day. There are some areas though that have overly restrictive (in my mind) laws regarding animal ownership (BSL etc) and I think that many times it is passed due to a fear based mentality.

Sometimes there is legislation that requires licensing and inspection if you have say over 50 to 100 dogs. The AKC and a lot of the dog fanciers get up in arms because they say that the government is interfering with their right to breed/own dogs.

And while I might lose a "star" or two besides my name for saying this, I don't agree with the AKC and breed fanciers on this point. If dog people (be it puppy mill or responsible breeder) policed themselves effectively there would not be a need for this legislation. However, there are enough bad apples out there that makes such legislation needed in my opinion.

I have no problem with someone owning 100 dogs or more. I could not do it but if those dogs are properly housed, fed, and treated for medical ailments I am not going to complain. But I also think that if you have that many dogs, it would not kill you to be inspected every once in a while to ensure proper care is being given.

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I have no problem with someone owning 100 dogs or more. I could not do it but if those dogs are properly housed, fed, and treated for medical ailments I am not going to complain. But I also think that if you have that many dogs, it would not kill you to be inspected every once in a while to ensure proper care is being given

Like owning a kennel. It can be done if you have a system and people working for you. It's just not realistic(or good for their own mental health) for someone to think they can do it by themselves. I'm assuming boarding kennels have to be inspected. I woked at one when I was 18 and over holidays we had over 200 dogs. Not counting the cats. It was well kept and clean

Yes, someone owning 100+ dogs and is not a hoarder is generally running some sort of kennel/rescue facility. I have been to facilities with a large number of dogs and the facility and dogs were spotless. These places have a sufficient number of individuals to care for the animals.

 Quote: Michelle-Pociask

I'm assuming boarding kennels have to be inspected. I woked at one when I was 18 and over holidays we had over 200 dogs. Not counting the cats. It was well kept and clean

For Washington the limit is fifty dogs over 6 months. Boarding kennels, Vet offices, rescues, and Groomers are exempt from the bill which set up limits and standards of care for anyone owning more than ten dogs. There is some wording on the bill I take issue with, like one that pretty well makes crating against code and requirements for vet care that are pretty crazy. This year they tried to bring this number down to 25 after less than a year of passage.

Be careful what you wish for.

 Quote: Ingrid Rosenquist

It depends what you mean by limit. In my town (roughly 125K) I live in city limits. You have to license your dogs and if you own more than 3 you have to get an annual small animal permit which costs 30 bucks a year.

I beleive that our county is similiar, 3 dogs per house but I think it is 2 within city limits. I have heard of getting a special license for more if you foster/rescue, breed, etc. Honestly I never really paid that much attention to the details re: those laws or permits but this thread made me wonder. Appreciate all the input, plus.....

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 Quote: Dave Ferguson

I was joking about the me hoarding animals.

Dave I assumed you were joking, no intentional reply that you weren't.

Just curious, does anyone know why counties/cities limit the number of dogs? Did it originate from hoarding situations or?

In my town you can not own more then 2 with out permit. We also have to register all our dogs with the county.

We also have a barking limit. They are not aloud to bark more then 2 times an hour while outside.
I live outside of town in a smaller town of 160 people. Probably 50-60 dogs. I do not think anyone obeys the 2 bark an hour limit. But, no one complains thank goodness.

It does make me paranoid though. Because my Dobe does not like to use the bathroom on lead, so I put her in her outside run. She will go in there.
But, she barks in there. A lot. So, I just leave her in there long enough to do her business, then I take her out.

 Quote: Dave Ferguson

We also have to register all our dogs with the county.

We also have a barking limit. They are not aloud to bark more then 2 times an hour while outside.

The registration is through the purchase of the Rabies tag? I think in a neighboring town you also have to pay a city registration fee. For both fees the cost differs if the dog is intact or altered.

A bark limit, huh? Now who on earth decided that 2 barks an hour is sufficient or tolerable? For my dogs that can be the greatest part of being outside....alert, alert x 50 x the dogs outside.....a squirrel is in the vicinity..