dam, you are harsh, not goin to try n argue ya though. relax a bit. too far off topic n yr making this a spectacle so i'm deferring to ya.

I am going to chip in here and give an example of what goes on my training field to provide an example of Aaron's point.

Now Fetz is a extremely *verbal* dog - those of you that have seen us at the Leerburg seminars or have trained with me know exactly what I mean.
Fetz is a talker, and squeaks in excitement a lot ( it'd be embarrassing if his bite work wasn't so good ).
I *never* have to amp him up ( at one Leerburg seminar, I was on deck as the next dog and Fetz was squealing away and one of the trainers watching said "wow...a dog that loads himself!" ).
He can get so loud that if new people are at the club, I make sure that they know that it's Fetz's normal state, that I'm not juicing him with the e-collar, so they don't get the wrong idea.

If I didn't have the presence of mind to tell bystanders that, they would go home and think that I abused him, I guarantee it - but it was instead a dog's normal ( well......normal for Fetz ) behavior.

This just goes to show that a novice can easily mistake what is going on the field for something that it's not.

Kelly Byrd's dog is the same way.
You'd think someone was beating the dog to death.

But that's just Koenig.

so Aaron while off topic, i ran that whole business about "somethin being less than nuthin" by some umm, real smart folks, - it doesn't work.

hope yr not still mad at me

Some "real smart folks" who haven't heard of negative numbers.
Incredible.

And here I thought nothing could be less believable than your training stories.

Zero : nothing, having no measurable or otherwise determinable value.

Negative Number: a number less than zero. See also, Peter.

Edited by Aaron Myracle (03/17/2011 03:40 AM)
Edit reason: Added links for the "real smart folks"

we still playin, -ve numbers would ahh still be something, very much something in fact.

maybe you should look at my intial proffessional training as you like going through my threads so much, before you re-post, doesn't involve dogs but ah lots of numbers involved tehe.

Your grasp of mathematics is about as sound as your understanding of dogs, grammar and basic morality.

Negative numbers do not exist. They are terms to express measurement of absence. (e.g., How much understanding of Schutzhund does Peter have? -9,000.)

If zero = 0 then
-9,000 < 0

Which you would know if your claims to any degree of higher education were true.

 Quote: Peter Cavallaro

we still playin, -ve numbers would ahh still be something, very much something in fact.

maybe you should look at my intial proffessional training as you like going through my threads so much, before you re-post, doesn't involve dogs but ah lots of numbers involved tehe.

Numbers guy huh? I would have guessed English Literature.

 Quote: steve strom

Numbers guy huh? I would have guessed English Literature.

Now Steve, my undergraduate degree is English Lit so not all of us are bad :-p

Maybe anglish is a seconned langooage fer him Steve.

We shouldn't give him a hard time over that.