Quote: jeannie oakley

No one seems to mention that this "dog" has been trained with a shock collar whenever it saw a human.. this "monster" was created by a human.

This is not quite accurate Jeannie... Please do a search on the OP's past posts and you will see this was discussed in length - at great concern among this forum's members. All of the previous posts on this particular dog and owner are available for your review.

Just my opinion, but if you need to refer to a client's dog as a monster instead of a "dog", this may be indicative that the case is beyond your experience level. There is no shame in that fact - unless you don't let the client know this up front.

Just the fact that you BLEW my first post apart tells me, no matter WHAT your credentials are, you have a sick sense of HIGH HORSE syndrome. Really, this board spends more times attacking others than actually helping owners. Yes (whoever wrote it), my dog loves the lazer light. I don't really care the "horrible" effects it may have. She's a dog who enjoys it....stop being so hung up on "WHAT CAN GO WRONG IF YOU....." and just enjoy your dogs. Will, you're not worth the argument, I don't waste my time trying to belittle other trainers. It goes to show just what type of "person", not trainer, you really are. Really sad Will,,really sad. You should be proud of your accomplishments, they look amazing... its your attitude towards people you don't even know. I wish I could have the opportunity to meet you, you'd see that you are so sadly mistaken. You said "A good trainer lists their his titles". Where is this in the "DOG TRAINING LAW BOOK"? Please, almighty one, keep enlightening us with your wisdom, but next time, pick a topic about dog training, not something that gives you a bigger ego. I'd be happy to discuss training techniques with you. You are a bitter person, and my advice to you is to look at your life, fix what makes you so bitter, you'll be a much happier person. Really sad, Will. Really.

Thank you Barbara. When I approached him (he was muzzled), he immediately changed from an aggressive lunge to bark fulled with panic followed by immediately pooping on the floor. I'd like to try more positive reinforcement training with him. Corrections are making it worse. He needs to learn to trust humans. This will take more time, but is a better way to help him. Without changing the ways owners interact with him, nothing will change. They seemed very willing to want to help this dog and I hope, regardless of whether they continue with me or someone else, that they succeed. He is indeed a beatiful Cane Corso. The first trainer they saw would have been my first choice to refer them to. I have encouraged them to get other opinions other than my own.

Jeannie, Your assessment of Will is as far off the mark from accurate as you could possibly be. He is highly respected on this forum and along with a very, very limited number of other members, knows more about dog aggression than all the remaining forum members combined.

For those of us who look to this forum for information and knowledge, having a few members whose experience so far surpasses ours and who are willing to share that knowledge with us is a huge benefit. I look to these folks to point out what we do wrong as well as what we do right, and to also point out what makes other trainers professional (or not) or other techniques appropriate or not. Someone with Will's experience and years of working so closely with aggressive dogs, in my opinion, is qualified to make that distinction.

While you may prefer to "live and let live" and never criticise another trainer's techniques, the fact remains that there are people who are qualified to handle very aggressive dogs and unfortunately, far, far too many trainers who are not. This forum is about learning - both the good and the bad - and in my opinion, for Will and the other truly qualified trainers to sit by and sing kumbiya (sp?) when a dangerous situation is being discussed would be grossly irresponsible.

For me to criticise your ability would be innappropriate due to my level of experience. That is not the case with Will.

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Yes (whoever wrote it), my dog loves the lazer light. I don't really care the "horrible" effects it may have. She's a dog who enjoys it....stop being so hung up on "WHAT CAN GO WRONG IF YOU....." and just enjoy your dogs.

The is a good chance that playing with a laser pointer can cause OCD in a dog. Especially high energy dogs. A lady I know from another forum spent nearly a year getting her dog to stop chasing/looking for flecks of light after she'd introduced a laser pointer to her dog. And this is not at all an uncommon story.

Though you may not care if it could be harmful with your dog, it is doing a huge disservice to other people and their dogs advertising that it is okay on your website like that. Because laser pointers can have lasting negative affects on dogs.

It's the only thing you've said that's right so far Jeannie, "Without changing the ways owners interact with him, nothing will change."
Did you pick up that little tid bit from C.M.? Great insight.

I'm not even going to bother visiting your site.
Laser as a toy for a dog.....really?
Yeah great training tool keep up the good work Jeannie.

Jeannie = Charlatan

Michael = Gullible mark

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 Quote: jeannie oakley

.... my dog loves the lazer light. I don't really care the "horrible" effects it may have.

Well, that wraps it up for me.

"I don't really care .... "


I logged on to respond to the initial comment by providing links to the many books and web sites that give warnings about playing with dogs with flashlights and (especially) laser lights, but I now see it wasn't lack of information that was the problem.

It was "I don't really care ... "