 Re: Dog ate dark chocolate...HELP
[Re: Betty Landercasp ]
#305919 - 12/06/2010 10:37 PM |
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Regarding shooting the horse: nervous people can forget where the brain is-I have seen more than one horse that the owner intended to shoot, and instead made a mess.
Not between the eyes- instead, draw an X from the inside corner of the eye and the base of the opposite ear.
I shot an arthritic English Setter, before I was accepted into veterinary school. I think a gun, done right, is probably the best euthanasia tool.
I agree- about a gun, in qualified hands, is the best euthanasia tool. The location of the entry is SO important, and one reason I have such an issues with the bolt gun the slaughter houses use. Those guys have no idea what they are aiming for!
Off topic... sorry....
dog. chocolate. bad.
I'm hoping for the best! Hopefully with vomiting, and if he drinks LOTS to keep his fluid levels up, he'll come through just fine.
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Re: Dog ate dark chocolate...HELP
[Re: Kelly Byrd ]
#305920 - 12/06/2010 11:02 PM |
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To induce vomiting at home:
A 20 lb dog can have up to 3cc of hydrogen peroxide.
If she has not vomited in 10 min, it can be repeated.
FWIW, my references says 1 teaspoon (5 cc) per 10# of dog. And can be repeated every 15-20 min up to 3 times. But in my experience the first dose works within about 5 minutes.
FYI for charcoal, capsules are a pretty easy way to get charcoal down. You can get them at GNC. I'll give charcoal to a dog with an upset/gassy stomach. I've used it for years for myself and it always works really well. You just have to be aware that it will absorb meds so check with your vet if your dog is on other meds.
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Re: Dog ate dark chocolate...HELP
[Re: Mara Jessup ]
#305921 - 12/06/2010 11:48 PM |
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FWIW, my son's girlfriend is an emergency room vet.
She told me that a dog would have to eat almost it's weight in Hersheys "MILK" chocolate in order to have a bad reaction.
Not to lessen the dangers but to many folks over react to the MILK chocolate.
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Re: Dog ate dark chocolate...HELP
[Re: Bob Scott ]
#305923 - 12/07/2010 06:25 AM |
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Thanks again everyone!  My mother in law reports that the dog is doing great! It seems that we were able to get him to vomit the majority of what he had eaten.
I agree with you guys about horses too...I used to manage a horse farm and it sickened me how many wonderful horses were shipped off to slaughter once they weren't useful anymore. That's one major reason I got out of the professional horse industry. I couldn't stand how these animals were treated like machines with no regard for their welfare..they were simply a tool to make money. I still own three of my own horses and although I do have an emergency fund for them, I can honestly say that I would shoot them myself if they were suffering and there is no way they would ever be sold for slaughter. Same with Vader...if for some reason he was suffering and couldn't be saved I would have no issue with putting him out of his misery. Of course it would be hard, but that's our job as animal owners.
Thanks again for all the great information regarding chocolate!
"Vader" my 8 month mal
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[Re: Olivia Brown ]
#305926 - 12/07/2010 07:50 AM |
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I have a 22-year-old mare that will live on my farm until she leaves this world, for the very reason that has been discussed here. Too many people, when their horses become old and arthritic, send them off to slaughter. Some of them are even stupid enough to think, when they took the horse to the auction, that it went to a good home. I'm not saying that's where all auctioned horses end up, not at all, but I live not too far from the Canadian border, and there used to be an every-Friday-night horse auction in our area, and the killers were always there with their big stock trailers.
I have to ask a follow-up question on this "subtopic" that has developed here, that is, emergency euthanasia partial mod delete
I know if I ever had to do this, it would haunt me forever, but I think I could if I had to. Again, I apologize for the graphic nature of my question, but I know there are knowledgeable people here who can give me an honest answer.
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[Re: Cheri Grissom ]
#305929 - 12/07/2010 08:31 AM |
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Cheri,
However you feel about it I have to put up the disclaimer that in some areas that home euthanizing your own dog is illegal. So please know and understand the laws of your area before you consider how you would do that deed.
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PM for an email address and we can discuss off board.
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[Re: Cheri Grissom ]
#305935 - 12/07/2010 10:06 AM |
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Posted at same time Melissa was writing.
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[Re: Melissa Thom ]
#305936 - 12/07/2010 10:13 AM |
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Cheri,
However you feel about it I have to put up the disclaimer that in some areas that home euthanizing your own dog is illegal. So please know and understand the laws of your area before you consider how you would do that deed.
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PM for an email address and we can discuss off board.
Melissa
Thanks, Melissa. You make a very good point. Here is my own disclaimer: Please know I am not advocating anything illegal. I apologize to anyone who was offended by my question, but my only motivation was to know what to do in the event I had to save an animal from extreme pain and suffering. God knows, I hope to never, ever have to encounter such a situation. It would be a last resort, and the truth is I don't know if I could do it myself. Please consider my question withdrawn, and I hope we'll close the subject.
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Re: Dog ate dark chocolate...HELP
[Re: Bob Scott ]
#305938 - 12/07/2010 10:35 AM |
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FWIW, my son's girlfriend is an emergency room vet.
She told me that a dog would have to eat almost it's weight in Hersheys "MILK" chocolate in order to have a bad reaction.
Not to lessen the dangers but to many folks over react to the MILK chocolate.
This is the point I was trying to make too, and it's worth repeating: MILK chocolate is almost another thing.
Unsweetened baking chocolate has about TEN TIMES the theobromine (the alkaloid that causes the trouble) of milk chocolate, and semi- and bittersweet and dark all fall somewhere in between. For example, the 70-80% darks that some of us have mentioned here (longingly) would be way over in the danger side on that line between milk and baking.
This doesn't mean we should ever give dogs any chocolate at all. It does probably mean that we need to understand when we must get the dog to the vet asap.
The O.P.'s relative's dog had eaten what sounds like (from what we know; we don't know for sure what the amount was) a potentially lethal dose of dark (although nowhere near the darkest) chocolate, and thank goodness induced vomiting quickly.
I'm so glad to hear the dog is doing well!
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[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#305940 - 12/07/2010 10:37 AM |
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I know we're all sorry this happened, but we can make something positive out of it by reminding everyone that we're now in the season when folks give each other "surprise" boxes of chocolate, and while we may not smell what's in there, our dogs can. So gifts put under a tree or anywhere else where a dog can reach them have to vetted (haha) by us, the dog owners. We have to ask.
And then immediately eat it all to keep the dogs safe.
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