Tim Curtis wrote 02/04/2011 05:15 PM Re: Vader almost got lost.... [Re: Kiersten Lippman ] #315092 - 02/04/2011 05:15 PM
Tim Curtis Webboard User Reg: 07-23-2010 Posts: 227 Loc: Midwest Offline	When I first got Brodie the situation was---novice dog owner, experienced dog. One night I had come in from the firepit with Brodie at about midnight, unclipped the leash, then turned around to close the doorwall. Before I could move he shot out through the opening and chased a deer off into the darkness. Not a single bark. Woods across the street where the deer live. No use chasing so I walked up the middle of the street belting out the recall "BRODIE COME!" After a few minutes and from about a block away he came flying back toward me. I clipped on the leash, gave him an attaboy and headed home for a cold one. My heartrate was about 300 when I saw that dog running back toward me. Been learning ever since. Brodie
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Betty Waldron wrote 02/04/2011 06:35 PM Re: Vader almost got lost.... [Re: Jenny Arntzen ] #315121 - 02/04/2011 06:35 PM
Betty Waldron Webboard User Reg: 07-11-2002 Posts: 2679 Loc: North Florida (Live Oak area) Offline	"He finally slowed down to a trot and I got close to him several times, but he wouldn't let me get close enough to grab him. Long story short, I finally herded back into our yard and while he was busy sniffing, ran upstairs and got a bowl of food." ******** I think he thought he had a new game. <grin> If at all possible in a situation like this, get him looking at you, jump up and down like a crazy woman and take off running the other way whooping and hollering...... Betty (Waldron) Mathena http://www.littlerivercanine.com
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Aaron Myracle wrote 02/04/2011 06:46 PM Re: Vader almost got lost.... [Re: Betty Waldron ] #315127 - 02/04/2011 06:46 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	Never, ever give a recall command that you don't have the ability to enforce. In other words, never tell a loose running dog "come". Laying down works. Running in the opposite direction works. Calling their name, making a fool of yourself, etc, all work. But don't give the recall command when they've already made it clear they're blowing you off.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/04/2011 06:48 PM Re: Vader almost got lost.... [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #315129 - 02/04/2011 06:48 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	I agree 110%.
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Tim Curtis wrote 02/04/2011 07:20 PM Re: Vader almost got lost.... [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #315134 - 02/04/2011 07:20 PM
Tim Curtis Webboard User Reg: 07-23-2010 Posts: 227 Loc: Midwest Offline	Quote: aaron myracle In other words, never tell a loose running dog "come". Because it weakens the recall programming in the dogs mind, correct? Brodie
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Aaron Myracle wrote 02/04/2011 07:22 PM Re: Vader almost got lost.... [Re: Tim Curtis ] #315135 - 02/04/2011 07:22 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	It teaches the dog it's optional. It's about as effective as the ten-million threats to "pull this car over right now if you two don't stop fighting".
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Tim Curtis wrote 02/04/2011 07:26 PM Re: Vader almost got lost.... [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #315136 - 02/04/2011 07:26 PM
Tim Curtis Webboard User Reg: 07-23-2010 Posts: 227 Loc: Midwest Offline	lol yes of course. I've found that like kids, my dog may/will exploit any hole in the structure of things. Brodie
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Tim Curtis wrote 02/04/2011 07:38 PM Re: Vader almost got lost.... [Re: Tim Curtis ] #315137 - 02/04/2011 07:38 PM
Tim Curtis Webboard User Reg: 07-23-2010 Posts: 227 Loc: Midwest Offline	Curious though, is there a protocol other than "come" for recall when your dog is gone, out of sight? Brodie
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/04/2011 07:49 PM Re: Vader almost got lost.... [Re: Tim Curtis ] #315138 - 02/04/2011 07:49 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Well, like Anne, I don't let my dogs out of my sight until they have a very very good recall. I'm in NO RUSH at all to have the dog off-line in an uncontained space before he has a solid recall.
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Lauren Jeffery wrote 02/04/2011 07:53 PM Re: Vader almost got lost.... [Re: Tim Curtis ] #315140 - 02/04/2011 07:53 PM
Lauren Jeffery Webboard User Reg: 01-16-2010 Posts: 1389 Loc: Offline	Its not that you can't ever use your recall, its just that you should avoid using it if you think the dog is not going to comply. For example if I'm hiking with my dog and she just wanders down off of the trail I know my recall will work just fine. If she buddies up with another dog and they take off chasing an animal it might not work. That's why its my job to make sure situation b dosent happen. Its about knowing the dog and where you are in your training. Edited by Lauren Jeffery (02/04/2011 07:57 PM) Edit reason: stupid touchscreen
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