Thanks

Quick question.

We have been charing up the mark the last 2 days now, not really doing much other than that, and she was jumping on people again like mad, Im assuming because she was scared of the collar, not be because she had learned not to do it. I have just been standing still, completely emotionless, and the moment she sits and looks at me mark it with a "yes" and toss her a treat. I was wondering is it ok to toss her the treats instead of handing it to her?

I can wait until she calms down and hand it to her, but she really gets a lot more excited to catch them out of the air, and she gets them nearly every time as long as I give a decent toss

We have been charing up the mark the last 2 days now, not really doing much other than that, and she was jumping on people again like mad

What people? In the house? At the door? Details. Is the dog on a drag line?

Im assuming because she was scared of the collar, not be because she had learned not to do it.

I would assume this too, since she hasn't been trained a different behavior or even had this one managed by standing on the leash, crating when people come to the door, etc.


I have just been standing still, completely emotionless, and the moment she sits and looks at me mark it with a "yes" and toss her a treat. I was wondering is it ok to toss her the treats instead of handing it to her?

Why is she so far away? Also, I thought (from above) you were just charging your marker ... ? Did you get to the point where you mark, the dog looks to you for reward? What is the standing still, emotionless? Is this during a training session, or when she is jumping, or what?

I can wait until she calms down and hand it to her, but she really gets a lot more excited to catch them out of the air, and she gets them nearly every time as long as I give a decent toss

Calms down from what .... Jumping on people? More explanation ....

PS

She IS gorgeous.

Jeffrey, is there any chance of linking us to even a short video clip of working with the dog? Even charging the marker, or what you do when she jumps up?

I mean, in addition to the questions.

I am going to get a camera in the next few weeks, valentines can be an expensive holiday . I figured it would help me on our training quest to show you exactly what is happening

Jumping:

On me, girlfriend and roomate, or when she gets excited for the treat in my hand

Drag Line :
Yes she is on a drag line now, she is quick so the trick is grabbing it when she bolts

Crate:
Yes I put a crate near the door, haven't had any guests though so I haven't been able to use it yet.


On charging the mark:

By this morning she the moment I say yes she starts drooling, she is getting freeze dried turkey heart pieces at the moment, which is basically her crack, but we ordered a variety of soft treats with our Leerburg dvd to begin using as long as she is just as excited about them. The turkey hearts are far too expensive

Tossing Treats: Its not that she is far away, I will gently toss right in front of her mouth or drop it down over her mouth so that she can catch it, she enjoys it more, and it helps keep her from mauling my hand to death every once in awhile when she gets too excited

When you get a chance, can you crop or resize the big sig pic? Thanks.


What do the roommate and GF do when the dog jumps up? Do they engage, and then everyone gets excited (whether positive or negative excitement)?

roommate completely ignores her just walks through her, girlfriend is working on not reacting, because it does only make it worse

Edited by Jeffrey Hill (02/10/2011 06:29 PM)
Edit reason: spelling

The sig pic is much better ... thanks!

So your GF is rewarding the jumping up. This is very counter-productive. Getting rid of that one thing will make a difference. Add standing on the line in the situations when it happens most often, and you will probably cut the habit in half or more (depending on consistency).

Every time a human rewards it, your training is set back.

She sees how I do it and is trying very hard, I have a feeling if she stops being reactive to the situation the problem will be reduced. Should she also keep a few treats in her pocket so that when she does come home, and Heidi does calm down she can reward her?

Heidi on her hind legs is face to face with my girlfriend, and can drag her across the floor now in a game of tug of war I believe this is why she is a bit nervous when Heidi jumps on her

 Quote: jeffrey hill

Yes she is on a drag line now, she is quick so the trick is grabbing it when she bolts

If she is on a drag line, you should step on that line to prevent her from jumping up on people. Don't try to grab it with your hands - step on it and she will be unable to jump. When she sits, say YES and reward. My opinion, since we are trying to get her to CALM down in this situation, I would not toss the reward since that amps her up, plus the tossing is going to give her the message of "jumping" up to catch it.

Deliver the reward in a manner to reinforce the behavior you are training.