Just today my Doberdork "got his frolic on" in the muddy park, play-bowing to me, spinning and jumping around on his hind legs like a kangaroo. I laughed so hard I fell in the mud, and it made him jump some more and spin.
His whole expression from his open, relaxed mouth, his bright eyes and his goofy posturing seemed to imply that he found my predicament amusing.
The entire clip looked staged to me. Didn’t look like old Denver touched that Kitty Party Mix at all, the package was planted for the sake of video.
I assure you had one of my dogs opened that pack of kitty treats, there would NOT have been a perfectly formed little "U" (mouth shaped) torn out... and not even a dog's mouth shape for crying out loud. The entire package would have been mauled... or eaten with the treats.
I think that many animals, not just dogs, have pretty darn similar emotions to people. Emotions are in
lower centers of the brain, mostly. That part is pretty similar once you get beyond fish and chickens.
People used to think animals didn't feel pain either, not the way "we do", that was taught in the recent past. Wrong.
We've got video examples of a BC who knows the words for 1000 different items, can even fetch an item based on a symbol drawn on paper. Being certain that animal can't know jealousy, sympathy, remorse -- I think that's like being 100% certain of a lot of "unknowable" things.
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I think that many animals, not just dogs, have pretty darn similar emotions to people. .... People used to think animals didn't feel pain either, not the way "we do", that was taught in the recent past. Wrong.
We've got video examples of a BC who knows the words for 1000 different items, can even fetch an item based on a symbol drawn on paper. Being certain that animal can't know jealousy, sympathy, remorse -- I think that's like being 100% certain of a lot of "unknowable" things.
I'm with you!
PS
But "guilt" for eating food that's left out or for bladder release when release was needed .... no, I'm not buying it.
Edited by Connie Sutherland (03/18/2011 04:18 PM)
Edit reason: PS
Tasha and I play "I'm gonna get you!" at least twice a day.
I shoot her this look and freeze into a stalking pose. She does it back. Then we have a standoff for a few seconds before she play bows and takes off running.
Connie, please don't take shorthand words like respect or trust out of the vocabulary.
Whatever else a dog may or may not 'feel', within their frame of reference they do understand respect and trust much as we do.
It's the very basis within and for the pack structure.
Edited by randy allen (03/18/2011 05:00 PM)
Edit reason: thinking ahead how fast I can type.
I think what Connie probably means is that attitude of "Now the dog it going to work out of repect for me!". Usualy that statement actually means the dog is working to avoid a heavy handed prog collar correction.
I do think respect is essential. I don't think it will make them perform a trick for you.
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