 Re: Proper corrections to give a puppy..?
[Re: Jennifer Lee ]
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Many days I came home from walks with Jethro and Skipper and slumped on the stairs with tears of frustration, my shoulder throbbing from coping with yet another lunging incident. I don't know if it is my handling skills or if Jethro is aging out, but my shoulder is mending and I'm enjoying my 'ghost' of a dog, as he glides beside me on our walks.
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Re: Proper corrections to give a puppy..?
[Re: Stephanie Bishop ]
#324463 - 03/30/2011 11:26 AM |
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... after he watched ace draw blood a few times on me..will NOT do anything but take him out to potty now and then. So lets just say..you all are my sanity outlet! I'm so glad to know you all survived..it gives me hope ... 
Thank you for a good morning laugh. 
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Re: Proper corrections to give a puppy..?
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#324569 - 03/30/2011 06:37 PM |
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It may have already been mentioned, and I may get bludgeoned by Ed, Cindy or the mods but...
Ed/Leerburg's training philosophy has evolved through the years.
You will find things on the site that aren't necessarily representative of the current, "more evolved" attitude towards training that Leerburg currently holds.
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Re: Proper corrections to give a puppy..?
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#324572 - 03/30/2011 06:49 PM |
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It may have already been mentioned, and I may get bludgeoned by Ed, Cindy or the mods but...
Ed/Leerburg's training philosophy has evolved through the years.
You will find things on the site that aren't necessarily representative of the current, "more evolved" attitude towards training that Leerburg currently holds.
This is true. Much of the 100,000+ pages of older material has been updated, but yes, there is still some not yet changed.
I think that a check might be to link any article in question to this board and ask about it. But I think that an even better thing is to go to the new DVDs, and here:
http://leerburg.com/flix/index.php?utm_source=nlist&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=03282011
and note that these streaming videos are affordable (and in fact, MANY are absolutely free!). 
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Re: Proper corrections to give a puppy..?
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#324576 - 03/30/2011 07:10 PM |
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In the Dominant dog dvd, there is footage of both Ed and Cindy holding puppies this way. In the video footage it is very apparent that they are not using force or intimidation to control the wild pup. Ed simply picks the puppy up, says "no" in a calm tone and puts her back down.
Its more of an interuption of the play attack than a correction. If anything, you can clearly see they are both very gentle and loving in their approach.
IMO, if you know you haven't done anything to get the pup all worked up, and redirecting isn't working (sometimes it doesn't), sometimes you just have to get the puppy to stop biting you. For your own sanity and the relationship with the puppy.
When its done in the way shown in the video, I don't see anything wrong with it.
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Re: Proper corrections to give a puppy..?
[Re: Lauren Jeffery ]
#324587 - 03/30/2011 07:55 PM |
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I don't think there is anything "wrong" with it, but suspect that most folks, when being "attacked" by a wild, hectic pup with more energy than they expected or have ever dealt with before, might be likely to transmit more frustration / fear / anger than they realize, which will only escalate the situation. Every so often we get a post from someone at their wit's end who has used this without success, and it always makes me think they are feeding the pup's energy rather than breaking it.
I think the person who is confident, calm, capable, experienced, etc...would most likely have more success with this technique than the average, at their wit's end new owner. JMHO.
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Re: Proper corrections to give a puppy..?
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#324597 - 03/30/2011 08:38 PM |
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In the Dominant dog dvd, there is footage of both Ed and Cindy holding puppies this way. In the video footage it is very apparent that they are not using force or intimidation to control the wild pup. Ed simply picks the puppy up, says "no" in a calm tone and puts her back down.
Its more of an interuption of the play attack than a correction. If anything, you can clearly see they are both very gentle and loving in their approach.
IMO, if you know you haven't done anything to get the pup all worked up, and redirecting isn't working (sometimes it doesn't), sometimes you just have to get the puppy to stop biting you. For your own sanity and the relationship with the puppy.
When its done in the way shown in the video, I don't see anything wrong with it.
The method described in the video didn't really work with my pup;
I had better results with distraction, short exercise sessions, ignoring, or
just a time out, which Puppies Sleep! Tired puppies, like kids, can get hectic, & need a break.
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Re: Proper corrections to give a puppy..?
[Re: Stephanie Bishop ]
#324599 - 03/30/2011 08:46 PM |
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The distinction being interruption, vs "correcting a 13 week old puppy for dominance".
The pup senses the difference.
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Re: Proper corrections to give a puppy..?
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#324602 - 03/30/2011 08:54 PM |
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The distinction being interruption, vs "correcting a 13 week old puppy for dominance".
This difference is also part of a new mindset that will really benefit you and the puppy: the continuous reminder that this is a baby. This isn't a dog exhibiting "bad behavior" with "dominance in the future." 
Luckily I get to go home after I work with other people's dogs or pups (mostly not pups, either), so I don't have to know first-hand the sheer head-banging frustration of a drivey puppy enjoying his teeth and his energy and his new world.
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Re: Proper corrections to give a puppy..?
[Re: Aaron Myracle ]
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The distinction being interruption, vs "correcting a 13 week old puppy for dominance".
The pup senses the difference.
'Zackly...
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