Aaron Myracle wrote 04/20/2011 02:13 PM Re: Doberman [Re: Ross Rapoport ] #328654 - 04/20/2011 02:13 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	It's not that hard to find a GSD with sound health or temperament, if you know what you're doing. If you're that worried about it, that's what green dogs are for.
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Ellen Dondero wrote 04/20/2011 02:18 PM Re: Doberman [Re: randy allen ] #328657 - 04/20/2011 02:18 PM
Ellen Dondero Webboard User Reg: 08-03-2010 Posts: 74 Loc: Offline	Hey Randy, Now come on, I came in on that post thinking it was her original post and was just trying to be nice (unlike others). I have always had multiples of dogs and cats, and everyone gets along, so I never gave it much thought. I've never had issues and no one has to live in a crate. And it is important in picking a color, as one would like one's dog to match the decor! Moe & Texas
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randy allen wrote 04/20/2011 02:19 PM Re: Doberman [Re: Ross Rapoport ] #328658 - 04/20/2011 02:19 PM
randy allen Webboard User Reg: 08-30-2007 Posts: 3283 Loc: Offline	"And no, Roger's not potty trained. I actually keep him in his crate 24/7, fitted with a colostomy bag." Actually I believe that statement Roger. So first you want to compare a GSD with a Dobie, now you want to compare the Dobie with a Mal. What's next? Ooh oh, I know let's compare the Dobie and Beauceron.
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Ross Rapoport wrote 04/20/2011 02:22 PM Re: Doberman [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #328661 - 04/20/2011 02:22 PM
Ross Rapoport Webboard User Reg: 07-24-2010 Posts: 421 Loc: Offline	If I knew what I was doing, why would I ask? And since we're being particular about word choice, I'm not 'doing' anything--no additional dogs on my radar. Simply asking because I know for certain my wife would not sign off on another Mal, period.
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Michael_Wise wrote 04/20/2011 02:29 PM Re: Doberman [Re: Ross Rapoport ] #328663 - 04/20/2011 02:29 PM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	I remember way back when I first joined the forum, Anne throwing a hissy fit because the forum had strayed from working dog's and was becoming pet and non-working dog oriented. Now I know how she felt. Because when I first joined, there was a lot more helping going on and less sniping on people that may not know dog's as well as us. People would give advice and not get butthurt when someone had a differing opinion. Life went on. People opinion shop.(Didn't see it in this particular case, but oh well.). People shop in my store all the time, and sometimes don't find what they want, or disagree with the price. I don't cry about it. It's a free country. They can walk away if they want. I also don't have to help them anymore, either. No need to get butthurt or cry. A lot of people are getting run off these days. There comes a point that you have to wonder if it really is "them". Things are just different now. I feel like I had a part in some of this, and I'm sorry. Or maybe it's just me.
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Aaron Myracle wrote 04/20/2011 02:30 PM Re: Doberman [Re: Ross Rapoport ] #328664 - 04/20/2011 02:30 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	You didn't ask. You made a statement- that it is hard to find a good example of a GSD. Shelters are full of GSDs with perfectly sound health and temperament. Not hard at all.
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Ross Rapoport wrote 04/20/2011 02:36 PM Re: Doberman [Re: randy allen ] #328669 - 04/20/2011 02:36 PM
Ross Rapoport Webboard User Reg: 07-24-2010 Posts: 421 Loc: Offline	Quote: randy allen "And no, Roger's not potty trained. I actually keep him in his crate 24/7, fitted with a colostomy bag." Actually I believe that statement Roger. So first you want to compare a GSD with a Dobie, now you want to compare the Dobie with a Mal. What's next? Ooh oh, I know let's compare the Dobie and Beauceron. Thanks, Randy. You've settled a question I had. After your last douchey diatribe I had contemplated putting you and Steve on whatever passes for Leerburg's ignore list, but wasn't sure if I'd be missing out on some valuable info. I gave you both the benefit of the doubt, thinking that despite your sophomoric 'ownage' you must be knowledgeable or skilled in some individually valuable way. But at this point I don't actually remember seeing anything of real value coming from either of you. I find it funny that it's always a forum's also-rans that are the biggest shit-talkers, while the members with real credibility seem to have other priorities. I apologized for having done the same to the guys with the Penis Extender bully breeds, and made it clear that I would stop trying to enhance my own status by hacking away at others. If you guys want to continue the childishness feel free, but if this software works halfway decently, I won't be reading it.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/20/2011 02:37 PM Re: Doberman [Re: Michael_Wise ] #328670 - 04/20/2011 02:37 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: michael_wise A lot of people are getting run off these days. There comes a point that you have to wonder if it really is "them". Things are just different now. I feel like I had a part in some of this, and I'm sorry. ALWAYS something to keep in mind. ALWAYS hard for me not to carry my grief from the last opinion-shopper who was essentially abusing a dog and saying "yeah but," over to the next innocent O.P. So I am glad you said this. For one thing, the most frustrating O.P.s are very often the ones who need the most help and need it spoon-fed. And running them off does not help any dog anywhere ever. In this case, I didn't see nasty running-off replies, but maybe that's just me. It's still a good reminder, Michael.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/20/2011 02:42 PM Re: Doberman [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #328673 - 04/20/2011 02:42 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland .... Someone who has four must care about dogs. I would urge such a person to please stop, breathe, and read Barbara's recap. Because abrasive or not, the advice against adding a fifth dog was all serious and (IMO) very good advice.
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randy allen wrote 04/20/2011 02:53 PM Re: Doberman [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #328675 - 04/20/2011 02:53 PM
randy allen Webboard User Reg: 08-30-2007 Posts: 3283 Loc: Offline	When someone actually asks a question I try to give an honest answer. But when someone makes what I feel is a stupid statement, and does so repeatly in ever more extenting threads...........
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