 Re: Protection without the actual protection
[Re: Aaron Myracle ]
#329375 - 04/25/2011 09:45 PM |
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I think one of things we have to keep in mind is that what we really are talking about is basicly a bluff.
Not a dog that'll do anything other then give second thoughts.
I like quiet stared focus.
eta,
Remember no matter what the dogs intent, the dog as already done gone silly barking and lunging, alerting to the menace there by doing it's job. Saying hello hello new people!
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Re: Protection without the actual protection
[Re: Will Rambeau ]
#329377 - 04/25/2011 09:52 PM |
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How would I go about this? Should I get in touch with a PP trainer or similar so that it's done safely and without escalating into something more? (pointer).
Just as an FYI, there are only about six ( yes, *6* ) PP trainers in this entire country that know what they're doing - the rest are wannabes with no real experience or knowledge base and are ill-informed at best, and dangerous at worst.
Be *very* careful regarding a PP trainer.
not to argue, but in my very limited experience, genetics has ALOT to do with a PPD. My Roxie was great on the sleeve, deep bite, calm firm grip, gunshot and stick didn't bother her because it was all a game and she's mostly prey, when we press her a little outside the "game" she was use to she backed away. we quit as soon as we saw it but it told us alot. Erika when press just got more intense like her father.
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Re: Protection without the actual protection
[Re: Dennis Jones ]
#329378 - 04/25/2011 09:54 PM |
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or scream like a banshee and run at them, then past them.
I actualy did this before, and it worked.
Jogging alone on a bike path early in the morning I came up on a group or 18 to 20 year old young men. I could tell they were about to harrass me, maybe they even had worse intentions than that, I don't know. There were five or six of them.
I just looked through them and kept my pace, as I came up on them one of the bigger ones stepped in my path. I ran *at* him, looking him directly in the eye and screamed ""F*** off!" as loud as I could.
Not kidding, he dove out of the way.
Women's self defense classes are good for something. No need to get the dog involved unless you want to really invest the time into doing it right.
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Re: Protection without the actual protection
[Re: Lauren Jeffery ]
#329379 - 04/25/2011 09:56 PM |
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Attidute attidute attidute.
Atta girl.
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Re: Protection without the actual protection
[Re: randy allen ]
#329380 - 04/25/2011 10:01 PM |
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I think one of things we have to keep in mind is that what we really are talking about is basicly a bluff.
Not a dog that'll do anything other then give second thoughts.
I like quiet stared focus.
eta,
Remember no matter what the dogs intent, the dog as already done gone silly barking and lunging, alerting to the menace.
Agreed. If someone isn't deterred by the presense of my alert, focused dog I'm running and if that doesn't work at least I have a plan B of dog barking and lunging but I prefer to run away and live to see another day. 
Also, my dog is a family companion I feel obligated to protect him; I'm not averse to a bark command but I'd rather leave an uncomfortable environment than see if some fool is held off by a barking dog.
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Re: Protection without the actual protection
[Re: Lauren Jeffery ]
#329381 - 04/25/2011 10:08 PM |
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Jogging alone on a bike path early in the morning I came up on a group or 18 to 20 year old young men. I could tell they were about to harrass me, At my age I'd take that as a compliment :wink: Seriously, though never underestimate the power of a good offense being your best defense.
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Re: Protection without the actual protection
[Re: Sheila Buckley ]
#329387 - 04/25/2011 10:33 PM |
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Whenever I see discussions about personal protection I think of an incredibly protective dog we owned and wonder if anyone ever uses CHesapeakes. Ours was calm and bold and serious-liked training, and was never foolish or silly like a lab.
It must only be certain lines of CHesapeakes that are that way. After our first died we got another (our first had such a reputation we didn't tell anyone she had died)
but the next one was just a "lab" with kinky brown hair, she had a totally doggy
disposition.
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Re: Protection without the actual protection
[Re: Betty Landercasp ]
#329399 - 04/25/2011 11:50 PM |
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Whenever I see discussions about personal protection I think of an incredibly protective dog we owned and wonder if anyone ever uses CHesapeakes. Ours was calm and bold and serious-liked training, and was never foolish or silly like a lab.
It must only be certain lines of CHesapeakes that are that way. After our first died we got another (our first had such a reputation we didn't tell anyone she had died)
but the next one was just a "lab" with kinky brown hair, she had a totally doggy
disposition.
A "good" Chessie is about as good as it gets. When I was a kid they were known as the Doberman of the sporting dog world. Of course the Dobe was a "good" dog when I was a kid also. Not so much anymore.
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#329408 - 04/26/2011 12:59 AM |
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There have been two or three SchH III's put on various Chessies.
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Re: Protection without the actual protection
[Re: Betty Landercasp ]
#329416 - 04/26/2011 06:27 AM |
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Whenever I see discussions about personal protection I think of an incredibly protective dog we owned and wonder if anyone ever uses CHesapeakes. Ours was calm and bold and serious-liked training, and was never foolish or silly like a lab.
It must only be certain lines of CHesapeakes that are that way. After our first died we got another (our first had such a reputation we didn't tell anyone she had died)
disposition.
Betty, we had a female Chessie back in the 70's...she was the first dog we owned after getting married. She was awesome; calm, willing to train/work, easy to be around inside the house, and THE most rationally protective dog we've ever owned. Perfect around guests and out in public, but NO one was going to come into the house or yard if we didn't say it was okay. No training on our part for that - it was all "Brandy". Doug still talks about that dog.
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