Re: crate training nightmare - advice/help needed
[Re: Ingrid Rosenquist ]
#338979 - 07/18/2011 02:24 PM |
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With breakfast she gets ½ cup water, then she is given another ¼ cup when I get home, ½ cup with dinner, after her walk she is giving another ¼ cup when we get back and then at night she gets a bone and is giving another ¼. Right now we are making sure too monitors the water intake due to how much she has been going to the bathroom. We have spoke to our vet and breeder about her water intake and they said this should be good, but to increase it as she gets better. My fiancé has 3 days off during the week so when she is out all day on our weekends she is given more water than this. This is standard for mon-thurs, unless one of us is off. If you think it is best to increase the amounts too all a ½ cup, I will defiantly be willing to try this. Right now she is left in an AC room where there is no direct sunlight on her, so as a puppy we don’t want to leave water in her crate yet. I have heard ice cubes were a good idea though.
I would love to suck it up and get home to the puppy, but I am in the medical field and my fiancé works for the government. We are both in different cities which is different from the one we live in. we have no relatives close and we just moved into our house, so no trustworthy neighbors at this point. We are new to the city in general so the only solution to this problem would be to leave her outside. With the humidity being so bad, the fact she sucks the water down as much and as fast as she can we are really hesitant about wanting to do this. But if it’s best for her, we certainly will give it a try. This is the first time; myself or either one of our families has had a puppy with these issues. I don’t want her to drink all her water and then have nothing left throughout the day.
The temperament on the parents was very different. The father was very easily potty trained had hardly any accidents and could hold is potty for hours upon hours even as a puppy. He is very laid back. The mother was a nightmare to potty train and is a little higher strung. I have been in constant contact with the breeder. Her advice has been about the same as far as the potty training goes as what I have received on here. Some things a little different and I have seen very fast results with some of the advice I have received on here. The breeder did insure us that the rest of the litter was doing just fine. I am not sure if the separation anxiety is being caused because we got her at 10 weeks old? The rest of the litter was gone by 6-7weeks old. Our puppy was then parried up with another 3 month old shepherd. The breeder was also home all day and crated our puppy at night with their other young puppy. The breeder did say when they left her alone she did scream so loud she could hear her outside of the house. But it wasn’t very often she was left alone. The vet told us that because of her screaming like this it would get her blood pressure up and cause her too pee. This is why we think she pees as soon as she gets in her crate or left alone in general. She is a puppy so of course we like the fact she is stuck to us, because it was easy for us to recognize when she had to go out – but now it’s so bad, she won’t even go out to the bathroom, outside, alone. I will look for a behaviorist in our area. I didn’t know this was something that should be evaluated. Thank you so much for your input.
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Re: crate training nightmare - advice/help needed
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#338980 - 07/18/2011 02:30 PM |
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Again as I am new to this site, and professions arent listed, I was not aware they were actual professionals.
I would love to read anything and everything you have on SA. That is exactly what she sounds like, just like you described. Again she has done this from day 1 when she was rarely left alone. We had days and nights with her before the potty thing became a problem. It seems when she started being left alone at night, is when it started. We were still getting up and letting her out every few hours and she was still soaking her crate. She wouldnt go when we took her out and would go as soon as she got back in her crate. She has done this since the first day. Its gotten better now, where it more of a dribble than a full out pee. Whatever happen prior to me having her I can not help. But its not just when she is in the crate. That is why I am seeking help on this issue now. I will probably just look for one in my area that can evaulate her. As for now the puppy will just have to be outside and I can see if this changes her. I will need to read about how to do this, since this will be new to me because I am not a fan of leaving my dog outside, but will try. I just want to make sure that she doesnt try to dig herself out of yelp to the point the neighbors call animal control and I take the chance of loosing her.
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Re: crate training nightmare - advice/help needed
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#338984 - 07/18/2011 02:37 PM |
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.... but now it’s so bad, she won’t even go out to the bathroom, outside, alone. I will look for a behaviorist in our area. I didn’t know this was something that should be evaluated. Thank you so much for your input.
I'd look for someone who is experienced with SA and with puppies. I'd even link the person to this thread before s/he comes because there's so much info here (your info too). I'd want someone who also does positive reward-based puppy training. JMO!
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Re: crate training nightmare - advice/help needed
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#338985 - 07/18/2011 02:44 PM |
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Again with the constant repeating of myself I am WELL AWARE the puppy IS NOT potty trained. This is CLEAR considering she pees anywhere but outside. I understand the difference. I know what I should do, as far as the crate, the hours etc. etc. I have addressed these issues since the first round of advice which was very helpful and again they are already improving. Puppies dont learn over night. I get the crate happy place, den etc. I am no longer seeking advice on how to crate train. I know every puppy is different. Obviously this one is different in a way that is different to me so I am asking for help. That is the whole point of me being here. Now that I am using the advice and it is working, that part of it is clearly not needed. You can repeat the advice if you feel it will make me help my puppy faster, but all the advice I have taking that is working, is only going too work so fast. Its been a week and shes made alot of improvements, so obviously what I am doing is working.
Since the problem is the fact I work and cant take off to go home, yes I will try and leave her outside against my better judgement on doing so. I take the advice I am given, thats why I ask for it. No I would not give her free run of the backyard, we would invest in one of the kennels that have a weather guard on it. I dont want to chance her getting into our hot tub cords or trying to dig out underneath the fence, if even possible. My main concern is with her screaming is one of our neighbors calling animal control and them trying to take her from us. But again I am willing to take all advice I am getting on what to do considering the advice I have used has worked thus far.
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Re: crate training nightmare - advice/help needed
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#338986 - 07/18/2011 02:46 PM |
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Thats very good to know and very helpful. When looking for someone in my area, is there anything else to look for in a person besides postivie reward-based puppy training? I do not want to take steps backwards in her progress now that she is about to turn 15 weeks old.
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Re: crate training nightmare - advice/help needed
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Re: crate training nightmare - advice/help needed
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#338988 - 07/18/2011 02:57 PM |
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Rachel,
See if the breeder will take the dog back. The screaming won't go away, it's genetic, the pup will NOT get housebroke with your work times and it's going to end up a bad outcome.
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Re: crate training nightmare - advice/help needed
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#338989 - 07/18/2011 03:00 PM |
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Well because the medical field and the government are constantly working, we dont have the advantage of being able to take a week off to work with her everyday.
My fiance is off 3 days a week and once a month 4 days. This is consecutive. We take her on play dates, beach, our own backyard. About 2 weeks after we got her, my fiance spent about 3 hours outside with her playing. She peed the first second they walked out. Afterwards she peed in the house, twice. So I know as far as potty training goes its going to be a nightmare as we were warned it was with her mother. But if at night we are up to let her out and during the day she is outside and has a place to relieve herself and we havent seen improvement then I know its something more and she needs to be looked at.
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Re: crate training nightmare - advice/help needed
[Re: Al Curbow ]
#338990 - 07/18/2011 03:05 PM |
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WOW, give up my dog b/c my fiancé and I work 4 days a week for 8 hours. That is a little harsh and INSANE.
Thanks for the honest help and advice. But I think I am going to unsubscribe to this website at this point. I feel more attacked than I do help by most of you. For people looking for honest help this isn’t the way to go. Every dog can be trained and I am not going to give up on a sweet loving puppy b/c after 4 weeks she isn’t perfect. I love my puppy dearly and will do anything and everything I can. I wouldn’t give my child back because it wasn’t perfect, and I certainly wouldn’t give my puppy back
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Re: crate training nightmare - advice/help needed
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#338991 - 07/18/2011 03:12 PM |
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2 hours ago you were thanking people on here for providing free advice.
And your first post asked for "all opinions and advice." That's what you're getting. Listen to all of it, then take what's useful and helpful to you.
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