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JMO on possible quick and dirty car corrections, I live with a pack of 6 rescues so I tend to focus on correcting problems instead of creating perfectly obedient dogs.
I'd be willing to bet that your dog would rather have a command to obey than a noisy can shaken in his face. One of the principles that every credible dog trainer (at least, that I know of) operates on is that a dog wants to know what is expected of him. More obedience means fewer problems to correct.
ETA; Have you met Andrew?
" More obedience means fewer problems to correct."
Yes.
Not to mention the many many many threads we've seen over the years about how to work with noise phobias ..... as bad, as unpredictable, and as damaging as laser light obsession, and just as likely to be human-caused.
A 17 week old puppy is still developing hard-wired ideas about what is fun and what is scary. If you use compulsion at the wrong time you could create a fearful situation in the car.
You think she barks now? Let her start barking in fear and then getting self-rewarded by the scary car running away.
I used to have to clean the blood off the back windows of my car every afternoon. I'm not speaking from theory.
It comes down to this. If you train a behavior, you know what you are training, and have control over the stimulus attached to that behavior in the dogs head. If you startle a dog, or cause it pain, you have no idea what that is going to be paired with in the dogs head.
My ancient IG was always a DOLL in the car until we rented a cabin on the Mississippi one summer, would leave the farm and drive 20 min and be there. She had a rat terrier friend there, a little fun pal.
It got to where as soon as she would smell the river ( a long way from the end of the trip) she'd start whining. Awful, loud whining.
Sometimes I think if many car rides end in something fun and exciting, training, the park, a great walk, the dog starts anticipating. So my later dogs all have tons of car trips that lead right back to the garage. This seems to help with car excitement.
My ancient IG was always a DOLL in the car until we rented a cabin on the Mississippi one summer, would leave the farm and drive 20 min and be there. She had a rat terrier friend there, a little fun pal.
It got to where as soon as she would smell the river ( a long way from the end of the trip) she'd start whining. Awful, loud whining.
Sometimes I think if many car rides end in something fun and exciting, training, the park, a great walk, the dog starts anticipating. So my later dogs all have tons of car trips that lead right back to the garage. This seems to help with car excitement.
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My ancient IG was always a DOLL in the car until we rented a cabin on the Mississippi one summer, would leave the farm and drive 20 min and be there. She had a rat terrier friend there, a little fun pal.
It got to where as soon as she would smell the river ( a long way from the end of the trip) she'd start whining. Awful, loud whining.
Sometimes I think if many car rides end in something fun and exciting, training, the park, a great walk, the dog starts anticipating. So my later dogs all have tons of car trips that lead right back to the garage. This seems to help with car excitement.
That's a good thought, and I betcha appropriate for many.
I have one who just loves the car, period, so he wouldn't care if we rolled up and down the driveway for an hour, but I'm pretty sure he's an exception.
It got to where as soon as she would smell the river ( a long way from the end of the trip) she'd start whining. Awful, loud whining.
Sometimes I think if many car rides end in something fun and exciting, training, the park, a great walk, the dog starts anticipating. So my later dogs all have tons of car trips that lead right back to the garage. This seems to help with car excitement.
Thank you! Tanner just started doing that and I was trying to think of how to stop it. Lots of uninteresting car rides coming up for him. I thought he had to go potty real bad the first time the whining was so obnoxious.
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