 Re: training with help of your tutorial
[Re: Betty Landercasp ]
#392308 - 07/16/2014 09:34 AM |
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it may be true. since i was not present on the dog walk so i cant comment on this
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Re: training with help of your tutorial
[Re: vivek sagar ]
#392309 - 07/16/2014 09:58 AM |
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hello team leerburg, i am unable to understand the following incident of aggression and bite.
since i have been lagging behind in obedience training and dog is not trained as per your ratings.
i was in office and preparing to leave for home in the end of the day, i got a call from home that my dog has bitten the hand of dog walker. i rushed to home and find the dog lying in the balcony with leash on. as told by family, it all started as follows.
as the dog walker came and my son called the dog by his name. dog did not responded on two or three calls. then he came reluctantly. my son who is 13 yrs old, put the leash on. when he tried to hand over the leash to dog walker, the dog resisted. one point is to be mmentioned here that i instructed to the family, if the dog is not willing to go, then do not try to send him. i will take him out after my office. after persuasion to the dog,when dog walker hold the leash the dog immediately bite in the hand of dog walker. when i reached home and asked about the incident they told me three or four times the same version of the incident. in the mean time i did not say anything to dog. just hold the leash and went for a walk and feeded him as usual. during the walk i remain silent. prior to this i went hospital and vaccinated the dog walker. after one day when i called the dog walker for his well being, the dog saw him and showed aggression again. since i was present on the occasion i gave him two three hard correction as i saw in the video of dominant dog collar. i am not having the dd collar but the simple plain nylon collar. also i chained him and put the muzzle on. i am not able to understand the reason of this behavior and repeated aggression on seeing the dog walker.
i am fully determined to do anything whatever you suggest to make me do as i do not want to separate the dog. also i am very much concerned about the safety of the people. i am showing the courage to write this to you because i feel that you give advice to put the dog to sleep whenever you sense some thing wrong from the dog or dog owner. i seek your advice and cooperation.
one more thing to be included here. the dog attacked the dog walker on the moment when my son handed over the the leash to the dog walker.
in the same connection, i would like to add here that i am determined to crate training and after the evening walk and dinner i tried to shove the dog into the crate and the dog did not go into the crate. any support is welcome.
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Re: training with help of your tutorial
[Re: vivek sagar ]
#392310 - 07/16/2014 11:08 AM |
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"i tried to shove the dog into the crate and the dog did not go into the crate. "
I can't think of any event in life when shoving is the right answer.
A crate isn't a magic box that automatically puts bad dogs under a happy spell. It's a fine tool for containment, and many dogs like going into a crate if they have been properly conditioned to accept it as a safe, comfortable den. Those who have not had this conditioning will not understand the crate and may, indeed, behave worse in the crate, or harm themselves trying to escape from it.
So back up.
Get a crate and spend many days (or weeks) getting your dog adapted to the idea of it. Feed him in the crate. Toss treats into the crate. Allow him to lay in the crate with the door open. Only when you can get to the point that the dog WANTS to be in the crate will the dog be comfortable in the crate. Then it will be a tool for safely confining and calming your dog.
Until then, you may be making the problem worse. Don't shove your dog. And don't expect him to understand that the crate is good place until you've taught him that. As it stands, he thinks the crate is a scary punishment. How could he think otherwise?
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Re: training with help of your tutorial
[Re: vivek sagar ]
#392312 - 07/16/2014 12:12 PM |
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i'd like to know a lot more about the circumstances surrounding the " bite " on the dog walker .
it could well have been , " yes , the leash , i'm going for a walk ! " excitement mouth grab .
i don't know what the dog walker work force is like in your country vivek , but here in north america the vast majority of dog walkers are true dog lovers who are truly looking forward to taking their clients' dogs out for their daily exercise .
that is the kind of dog walker you should be looking for . if your dog isn't excited about the dog walker arriving each day , that might tell you something about how they are spending their time when he takes your dog away . have your son go follow them some time , and if his reports aren't good , find another walker . . . one that the dog really likes . why would you spend your money on anyone else ?
what other previous " bites " does this dog have ? what is the general nature of the bites ? are they malicious unprovoked attacks , or just the behavior of an excited , unruly young dog who just hasn't learned some rules about what is appropriate for his mouth yet ?
regarding this web board and putting dogs down . . . most of the time we counsel to put the owner down first . . . just kidding of course but generally we side with the dog and try to work on the problems of the owner .
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Re: training with help of your tutorial
[Re: vivek sagar ]
#392313 - 07/16/2014 12:13 PM |
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one point is to be mmentioned here that i instructed to the family, if the dog is not willing to go, then do not try to send him.
Why is this being overlooked?
I will take him out after my office. after persuasion to the dog,when dog walker hold the leash the dog immediately bite in the hand of dog walker.
Saw this coming.
Vivek;
Why did you suspect there might be an issue with the dog wanting to go with the walker? Or does the dog do this with you and you suspected that it might transfer? You said in another post that the dog has bitten before... why were your instructions disregarded?
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#392318 - 07/16/2014 01:21 PM |
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one point is to be mmentioned here that i instructed to the family, if the dog is not willing to go, then do not try to send him.
Why is this being overlooked?
I will take him out after my office. after persuasion to the dog,when dog walker hold the leash the dog immediately bite in the hand of dog walker.
Saw this coming.
Vivek;
Why did you suspect there might be an issue with the dog wanting to go with the walker? Or does the dog do this with you and you suspected that it might transfer? You said in another post that the dog has bitten before... why were your instructions disregarded?
you are correct to find this and i have already accepted this thing that my instructions are disregarded because i am lagging behind in the training and i want to overcome to this.
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Re: training with help of your tutorial
[Re: vivek sagar ]
#392324 - 07/16/2014 01:34 PM |
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Your instructions to your family are disregarded because your are behind in training the dog? I am not following.
Also, again, is it just the dog walker who the dog doesn't want to go with?
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Re: training with help of your tutorial
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#392326 - 07/19/2014 09:51 AM |
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I think I would lose the dog walker. If one of my mutts exhibited your described reaction to a person, I would keep the dog away from that person.
If the dog is good with the family, that is a good thing.
If the family is not tuned into the ritual you want, having to do with the behavior and training of the dog, that is a bad thing.
If you have training objectives, a general schedule for training, and behavior expectations, and the dog is generally responding to your efforts, that is a good thing.
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Re: training with help of your tutorial
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#392337 - 07/16/2014 09:49 PM |
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Your instructions to your family are disregarded because your are behind in training the dog? I am not following.
Also, again, is it just the dog walker who the dog doesn't want to go with?
dog walker is with me two or three month and normally i take the dog for walk. sometimes my son goes with him and there are no issues.
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Re: training with help of your tutorial
[Re: Mike Arnold ]
#392339 - 07/16/2014 09:55 PM |
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I think I would lose the dog walker. If one of my mutts exhibited your described reaction to a person, I would keep the dog away from that person.
If the dog is good with the family, that is a good thing.
If the family is not tuned into the ritual you want, having to do with the behavior and training of the dog, that is a bad thing.
If you have training objectives, a general schedule for training, and behavior expectations, and the dog is generally responding to your efforts, that is a good thing.
I am not sure I really understand the problem. I am sure some one will enlighten me.
sir exactly the dog was not willing to go but the dog walker insisted that this will form the habit. as long as the leash was with my son every thing was alright and the moment dog walker took the leash the accident heppened. actually it should have not happened. my son could be the victim also. this is two side concern. one the dog should not exhibit this behaviour and every body including the dog should be safe.
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