I was wondering are there seperate koremeisters (Breed wardens)for working lines and show lines (High line) GSDs or are the same breed wardens giving breed surveys for both working and show line GSDs? In order to receive survey I see that
Hip certification.
Completed a 12 mile endurance test (AD).
Passed a Companion Dog (BH) obedience and temperament test.
Achieved a minimum working certification of a Schutzhund 1 title.
Have received a minimum conformation rating of Excellent ("V").
are the requirements to receive a breed survey. So would working lines not also need conformation rating (as attend a conformation show)?
That dog is exactly what a GSD should look like, strong bones and straight legs and backs. I love the GSD but it makes me sad that there are so many GSDs even from workinglines that still has to much angulation and slooping backs. I can´t understand what the beauty is in the showline GSD, to me they look like freaks, far removed from the original structure of the sheperddog. I have a theroy that when they started to part the GSD in show and workinglines in the 60-70s, breeders of working GSDs started to focus on drives in their dogs but they wasn´t so intressted in changing the structure of the GSDs, the structure that was created by the breedstandard in the 50s. Therefore still today we see a better structure in the malinois than in the GSD in most cases.
Why do people think that show GSD are better looking than working ones? How can you compare a VA rated show dog to a black sable DDR with big head and bone? 99% of people in the street would think that the DDR is far more impressive looking. Now this is a good looking dog http://www.users.bigpond.com/kampk9/Tom_Picture.jpg
How can you compare?
I too prefer a working line GSD in all situations.... but you've gotta admit that even some of the best producers in the working lines are... well... less than photogenic.
Dave,
I agree that any dog of what ever breed, should be bred with TEMPERMENT/FEAR GENE being a major conern.
I bred Bluetick Coonhounds some yrs back. Workability was my goal, temperment had to be culled out. (too aggressive or too timid) It took a number of yrs to get close to what I wanted, never did achieve breeding to what I most desired. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Thanks your knowledge and experience has been appreciated. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There is HUGE variances within any of the lines, working or show. Heck in my club alone we have several different "looks" going on. Sad part is I tend to fall for a specific color and have a hard time looking past the fact that the dog is not that great a worker. Would I breed the dog, no, but I sure do like to look at him. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Dave, I'd much rather have Afra than a show line dog as far as looks (don't let Auster hear that).
To me a "show shepherd" is an oxymoron. How many shepherds could even tell what color their dog was after a good roll in the pasture <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> ?
"Dog breeding must always be done by a dog lover, it can not be a profession." -Max v Stephanitz
For those who may be wondering what we are referring to when it comes to American Shepherds, over angulation and wobbly hocks... this photo is good example:
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