I am interested in peoples opinion on whether they think there is a difference with "show or working" type's in Rotties. I confess i have 3 rotties and whilst physical condition can give them a different look (due i suppose to fitness) i dont see it as pronounced as the show GSD's that seem to drag their asses on the ground. I'm not being breed biased or critical, cos i love shep's but i really only like the types that come from the "working" lines which i'm lead to believe are the real GSD's. Only my opinion just curious.Thanks

I raised rotts for years and there were so many different "looks" That show and working had variations within themselves. I live in colorado and see many variations here at the kennel.

What i'm getting at is, are Rottie breeders or so called "show" breeders creating problems such as the ones reffered to in the above forum with other breeds. As i say and i agree with what you say Jeff there are a lot of different looks, but are breeders creating any problems dangerous to the long term good of the Rottie breed

Everyone has their own definition based on the standard. I started to have a lot of civil dogs in my breeding program that couldn't go to inexperienced homes. They did all look the way "I" thought they should look, no round heads, no 33 inch giants. I like the mahogany not the tan so thats what I bred.
The biggest overall problem was the damage that occured during the 80's when indescriminate breeding was the norm. Money trashes a breed. I am seeing that with the malinois now, people want 1200 dollars for a pup. This will lead to problems. If people love their breed they should come off these high prices. Many people will breed to get that money back, people who shouldn't be breeding. In America there is no one to protect the breed like a breed warden. I can't even imagine the nightmare that would cause. I know that the Akc was who I blamed, then the judges, then all the indescriminate breeders, then myself so I got out of it. If I got back into breeding, I would charge high prices, but give the money back if a title was achieved. I was doing this before and it kept some people from breeding and concentrated them on training. It was the best I knew how.

And yes the damage that is occuring that I see is bad nerves, high thresholds even for a rott and no character. Since I have lived in Colorado I have seen these black and tan dogs that look like rotts, but are so far and away from the breed I knew, I cannot imagine going back. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />