Not an attorney joke but funny all the same.......
What is the difference between a brown noser and a sh*tface?


Depth Perception....... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Well said Drew, that is also a good discription of my bitch.

Didn't take me long to figure out that "control of the dog" is a major thing with my girl.

Thanks for the support. Still waiting for Ed to reply even though it may sting a little.

Depth Perception....Man, that was a real knee slapper <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Gee Debbie, your one dog that doesn't like to be petted wouldn't be Winnie the witch, by any chance?

*Will counts his fingers after his last encounter with Winnie....* <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Regine,
The Glock is a brand name for an autopistol imported from Austria. It's very popular with Law Enforcement. I own seven of them in various calibers, and I'd bet that a significant portion of the forum members here own one. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Gee... between the Winnie finger joke and the pee pants remark in the other thread Will I gotta start looking at Airus hard... something about apples falling from trees. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Well, at least Buttercup did stop leaking...

And Debbie got exactly what she wanted, a primo PPD. Her girl is going to be an impressive deterrent when she gets older ( the bitch, not Debbie <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> )

I know that Mr.Frawley is probably going to get upset with my response, but I agree with most other policies of his...
I handle a police Belgian Malinois that is, as one other member put it, a slut. He loves everyone, and we do school demos and he gets to hang around the department "visiting" quite frequently. On the other hand, another handler has a belg that he doesn't let ANYONE see or touch, and that dog is a freak. He is a good service dog, but he doesn't have the same nerves as my dog, it seems. My belg has only had one negligent bite (my negligence) when a inmate was getting tased right in front of him. Immediately, I retreated, and he snagged a detention officer out of sheer frustration for getting pulled out of the situation. No hard feelings anywhere, and the incident was ENTIRELY my fault. My psd has incredible drive, and has three apprehensions to date, with no trouble. Even though some might think I am a total idiot, my slut likes to visit, and I don't want to take that away from him. I know, I'm digging my own grave...

I agree with you Howard.
But I have to add an incident that I feel that my dog's socialization HELPED.
I was sent to do a "civilian requested narc search of a house" and a five year old was present. He asked if he could pet the dog. I told him after the search, he could. We searched, the kid played with the dog, then left.
A few days later, we had a massive fight at a baseball tournament that included people busting thier heads in with bats. One officer got surronded, so Karlo and I went to his aid. There were 500 people there, yelling, screaming, and some confused. My dog was keyed to the max from all the stimulation. This same kid saw Karlo and ran up on our blind side. (who knows where mom was) yelling, "Karlo, I love you", and grabbed the dog with a bear hug around the neck. My heart stopped. I didn't see the kid until it was too late. Karlo stiffened, looked back, and totally disengaged the child. It was the most amazing thing I've seen. Karlo immediately focused his attention off of the child. I didn't grab the child in fear of Karlo reacting to my panic, but had another officer slowly get the kid. We didn't get any apprehensions that day, and I found the mom and tore into her, but who's fault would it have been? I was giving annoucements to stay back from the dog the whole time to the crowd. If my dog would have bitten that child, it would have been right in the face. I don't rely on my dog reacting ANY way, but I feel that being around kids and other people saved both our butts that day. Karlo saw that child wasn't an immediate threat to him or me. (BTW, one of our street bites was an "attack on handler" that Karlo took care of during another large, violent crowd). Maybe I was the luckiest one in the world that day, but I'll never forget that.

Thats a cute story, but there is a distinct difference between socializing your dog and restricting access to your dog.

You DO socialize your dog, and it is something that should happen when the dog is a pup. I'm not quit as strict as ED is, I do let my pups touch other people I know and any kids who's parents have done a good job training them. You also expose your dog to everything possible as they grow and mature AND train. But as they mature that doesn't have to mean people touch the dog.

I guarantee it wasn't the fact that you let your dog interact with that kid that saved him a trip to the ER. It was the good nerves of the dog, and whatever socialization the dog had early in it's life. (not to mention the situation and the context of the child's approach) An adult dog is more or less fixed in his temperament, especially regarding interaction with strangers IMO.


Restricting access to a bite trained dog is a very very good freaking idea.

I don't think socialization has to mean touching, it can be as simple as the dog learning to understand neutral people and learning to ignore them. With enough exposure to friendly people your dog gets the idea. . .exposure to friendly people doesn't have to mean the dog has to be touched for him to be "social".