Hi, Connie. I attended Cesar's seminar in LA last February. He is all the things that the group has mentioned on this thread. He is above all in command of himself and consequenntly his dogs. His basic instructions are a guide to your developing that attitude in handling your dog. Being calm/assertive and in charge of your dog at all times and just as in Schutzhund, the corrections are quick and firm and given without anger. Anger is off the table, but a bad dog is dealt with instantly and will be flipped and pinned for misbehavior. All of this is just good dog psychology. It is what the dog leading a pack would do and the natural pack behavior is what he tries to teach to us humans.

As a follow up on his seminar I attended another put on by his student, Cindy Lucas, who heads up the Second Chance at Love, dog shelter in Templeton, CA. She has worked with him as a student for several years and he has been to her facility to give seminars several times. Cindy gives a presentation like Cesar's but is hampered by the fact that she looks like a Dallas cheerleader, OK guys,I'm only joking here, she's really good at handling dogs and I am jealous of her looks and her skills. At these events she works with the owners and their and dogs on a one to one basis. She does have helpers that keep an eye on all the participants and the message is to be in charge of your dog at all times. You are responsible for the behavior of your animal and her corrections to the owners are equally quick and firm. When you come down to it, It's just like all good obedience training. You are boss or you lose face with the dog. Most pet owners do not understand this and his show is an honest attempt to teach the average pet owners how to manage their dogs.

On a personal basis I respect and greatly admire Cesar. He came to this country as a teenager with no family or money and he has used his brains and talent to build this business and has the respect of everyone I have talked to. He helps people and is a good entertainer as well.

QUOTE: I think that there are so many little subtle moments in dog training and behavior that watching over and over helps the mind progressively go beyond the principles, and into the details. END

Yes, exactly! I know every almost every Cesar Millan moment by heart, along with the three Leerburg videos I have so far watched.

I'm starting to sound like a groupie, I know, but so far I have never seen anything in either that didn't resonate with me.

And your comment about Millan keeping the projecting down and the listening up -- it applies to everything, once you grasp it, doesn't it!?

I too hope for additional new-season episodes, and I've started an email campaign just in case MPH, Hadler, and National Geographic aren't on the ball. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Seriously.

Connie, that's great; I will add in the e-mails as well.

I work with a lot of therapists who can never keep still...that is why I admire people with the ability to really listen...really observe. I had one detective I did a joint investigation with and wanted to hang myself...he never stopped talking. He practically missed a confession from a guy with stab wounds in his stomach!! During forensic interviews, we have to remain silent, but pull our hair out and want to scream: let him talk, let him talk!!

I had an old friend in NY who did trick training...he was the quietest man I had ever met..and he was good; really good at what he did. He observed everything and missed nothing. He and I would watch the leerburg tapes over and over and barely say a word to each other...

keep collecting the DVD's....memorize them and let them sink in...it is only now that I am really able to spot the difference between defense and fight...and I am still unsure about it...

Here's the link to Cesar's web site:

Click here for Cesars web site