 Re: new puppy growled. need help
[Re: Bounette White ]
#199259 - 06/19/2008 02:18 AM |
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i was worried about but did feel urgency with was his bad dog aggression, and him being aggressive with other people that came into the house, or even on walks. i felt nn urgency with thse things because i would put him in crate or in another room when company came over and he acted inappropriately.
Its to late for me to say what needs to be said here. I dont intend on jumping on your case anymore.
With this dogs problems you are going to have a long wait. You should never have allowed him around your kids.
Why would you have taken a dog that was people agressive and dog agressive if you didnt want an agressive dog.
You dont have the knollege to deal with a dog like this one.
I will discuss this more after I get some sleep.
I just didnt want everyone to miss that you were telling us he is also
DOG AGRESSIVE AND POEPLE AGRESSIVE
You are going to need outside help a trainer.
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Re: new puppy growled. need help
[Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ]
#199260 - 06/19/2008 02:28 AM |
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You keep pointing out that the dog has done so well. Thing is that dogs have triggers. For some it's food. For others it's toys and still others it's the couch or a favorite resting spot and sometimes it's any combination or all those (and there are a lot more I didn't name). Unless you are messing with those triggers however the dog will be just fine.
Molly is one of the softest dogs I've seen. One harsh "NO!" from me and she'll roll over and pee yet she growled at me once when I was taking her collar off while she was eating. Now I just don't mess with the collar when she is eating. No trigger no conflict and she's still the same dog she was before.
The point is that just because the dog is great in one situation doesn't mean it will be in another. This is the reason you need to spend some time getting to know the dog before giving it free rein around children.
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Re: new puppy growled. need help
[Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ]
#199270 - 06/19/2008 07:39 AM |
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Connie, to answer your questions
first i called a recommended trainer in my area and am awaiting her return call
yes he barks, hackles up, on walks. people and dogs,cats.
mostly dogs and the very few times we saw a cat.
i just spoke to the woman we got him from and she said he was never dgo aggressive before. he was in an outside kennel though oppose to living in his own home with the family.
hope this answers the uestions,,
thanks/
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Re: new puppy growled. need help
[Re: Bounette White ]
#199271 - 06/19/2008 07:55 AM |
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Bounette, I'm sorry but I think you should give this dog back and start all over with the help of a competent trainer/breeder or someone to find the right dog for your family. I get the impression you are ending up with someone elses problem dog. Again.
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Re: new puppy growled. need help
[Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ]
#199272 - 06/19/2008 07:57 AM |
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any good advice will be well taken and utilized
So you are going to crate the dog when he eats and leave him alone? Excellent. Problem solved.
your sarcastic remarks leave to think only that you did not receive enough attention as a child and you need some now...
so please will everybody stand while they read this and say:
"aaaaaawwwwee Mikey, are you o.k."
o.k. now that that is done will you please se if you culd either pay attention or excuse yourself from the table, grown folks are talking.
things being done......
dog is in crate when not tethered to me.
eating in crate, away from general traffic
NILF
no interactions with the kids for now
called trainer and waiting for call back
i will add later if i forgot something...
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Re: new puppy growled. need help
[Re: Bounette White ]
#199273 - 06/19/2008 07:59 AM |
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sorry for the SARCASMand RUDENESS
but if anyone was truly reading this and trying to add theri expertise then they would realise it is more than a dgo being food agressive. the dog growled away from food in another room. thanks
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Re: new puppy growled. need help
[Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ]
#199274 - 06/19/2008 08:02 AM |
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Amendment to above post (I missed the edit deadline by seconds!)...
Just caught the whole people-aggression thing. There was some mention of the dog being a perfect pet, so I assumed food aggression was the only issue.
The food aggression: solve with a crate, simple. The rest, you definitely need a competent local trainer to come guide you through it. Forums are great when it comes to getting the jist of what is good and what is bad training, and what you are doing wrong and how to improve it.
However, with stuff like this, either you need experience, or the guidance from someone with experience. It is not something to be tackled alone.
so i guess you jumped the gun before you got to read all post and so have i. i apologise for my previous post.
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Re: new puppy growled. need help
[Re: Bounette White ]
#199277 - 06/19/2008 08:13 AM |
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i think you've gotten some good advice here, actually, especially from mike.
i'm not going to comment on the dog/people aggression except to echo that a professional helping is important - and to say that so is consistency (i have found).
but in terms of how long to tether a dog - as long as it's necessary. i've had teagan since the end of october 2007, and while she's not always tethered when out of the crate, she still is the majority of the time - and if not tethered to me, than to a hitching ring in the wall (i use to tether her to her crate but she'd just take it with her, even if it was weighed down). teagan has had aggression problems, and while we've worked through the majority of them, she will never be allowed the freedoms luc is.
which is a long-winded way of saying if you're going to keep dozer, there's no need to rush to stop tethering him.
Teagan!
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Re: new puppy growled. need help
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#199278 - 06/19/2008 08:28 AM |
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alright i guess i will be walking around for quite a while with Doser tethered to me than.
thank you for the advice.
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Re: new puppy growled. need help
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#199280 - 06/19/2008 09:15 AM |
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I have something to say bounette.
Mike can give you great advice a lot of people can they are being the way they are for the safety of your child a person they dont even know the the safety of your dog a animal they dont even know.
So I dont know why you think it is ok to talk to people like you are but it bothers me a lot.
All anyone is worried about was your child and dogs safety.
I have got many harsh words but read and think. I think your the child in this situation not mike.
They are being harsh because they want you to understand that this situtation is not good.
IMO Send the dog back Start over you dont seem to like to listen so start over and you need to stop being rude to people who are worried about your family when they really dont have to be
If this post is not ok please delete but it really bothers me when people get such great help and get stupid about what poeple are saying
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