Angela Burrell wrote 03/26/2009 08:58 PM Re: working with training quirks [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #233451 - 03/26/2009 08:58 PM
Angela Burrell Webboard User Reg: 05-10-2006 Posts: 2273 Loc: Ontario, Canada Offline	As an update: my training session with my young male last night and tonight went very well with NO backing up. We worked on sit and down (things I taught him before the back up) last night and tonight at sitting in heel position. I worked in a tiny room where there was no room to back up and used my marker word rather than the clicker. So far, so good! Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I'll try to phase the clicker back in when he is solid on more behaviours.
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Jennifer Lee wrote 03/26/2009 10:57 PM Re: working with training quirks [Re: Angela Burrell ] #233470 - 03/26/2009 10:57 PM
Jennifer Lee Webboard User Reg: 12-16-2007 Posts: 2851 Loc: oklahoma Offline	That is great!
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Debbie High wrote 03/27/2009 01:04 PM Re: working with training quirks [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #233552 - 03/27/2009 01:04 PM
Debbie High Webboard User Reg: 01-03-2003 Posts: 704 Loc: Offline	Quote: Alyssa Myracle Your best bet is probably to change the command and start all over. Thanks Alyssa, will do.
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Aaron Myracle wrote 03/27/2009 01:33 PM Re: working with training quirks [Re: Debbie High ] #233558 - 03/27/2009 01:33 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	Debbie, you can try reteaching it with the same command, if you think your dog's temperment can handle attempt after attempt of what he *thinks* is the right behavior, only to be met with a negative marker and no reward. If the dog discourages or frustrates easily, it's much better to simply create a new command and behavior.
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Debbie High wrote 03/27/2009 03:29 PM Re: working with training quirks [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #233614 - 03/27/2009 03:29 PM
Debbie High Webboard User Reg: 01-03-2003 Posts: 704 Loc: Offline	I am going to try using the same command....her enthusiasm is part of the problem. Think I might try the corner trick with this and see how it works. Or maybe standing on the leash. Have been out of town for the last week so just doing a little brainstorming before we train this afternoon. Thanks a bunch, Debbie
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Roni Hoff wrote 03/27/2009 05:17 PM Re: working with training quirks [Re: Debbie High ] #233637 - 03/27/2009 05:17 PM
Roni Hoff Moderator Reg: 02-24-2002 Posts: 256 Loc: Offline	I have used place boards for a lot of these issues mentioned here plus some addition benefits. Helps the dog contain himself, helps on exact position, helps with duration, makes reward more fulfilling, etc. Hope this helps! Roni
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Lorelei Sims wrote 03/27/2009 06:34 PM Re: working with training quirks [Re: Roni Hoff ] #233657 - 03/27/2009 06:34 PM
Lorelei Sims Webboard User Reg: 09-17-2005 Posts: 183 Loc: Offline	Okay my dog is heeling and he is attentive then I will forget to reward him and he lets me know it....oh you mean the dogs quirks not me???? Sorry , I couldn't help it since I seem to be more quirky then my dog. Lorelei Sims http://jalbum.net/browse/user/album/317819/;jsessionid=j69gyfhmddy41rliccegrzwzw
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Debbie High wrote 03/27/2009 07:54 PM Re: working with training quirks [Re: Lorelei Sims ] #233672 - 03/27/2009 07:54 PM
Debbie High Webboard User Reg: 01-03-2003 Posts: 704 Loc: Offline	Thanks Roni....will give it a try.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 03/27/2009 08:20 PM Re: working with training quirks [Re: Debbie High ] #233673 - 03/27/2009 08:20 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	I loooove this kind of thread.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 03/27/2009 08:23 PM Re: working with training quirks [Re: Roni Hoff ] #233674 - 03/27/2009 08:23 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: roni hoff I have used place boards for a lot of these issues mentioned here plus some addition benefits. Helps the dog contain himself, helps on exact position, helps with duration, makes reward more fulfilling, etc. Hope this helps! Roni Ding ding ding! I never thought of "place" boards for so many things, but I don't know why. A whole little mental slide happened when you said that, and I realized that the mats I use to teach "place" are infinitely useful!
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