 Re: Raw food Diet
[Re: Michelle Pociask ]
#248760 - 07/31/2009 06:36 PM |
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.... I get it then the food aggression isn't fostered by her being in the room.
I don't understand.
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Re: Raw food Diet
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#248767 - 07/31/2009 07:11 PM |
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Well, if she's not standing by his crate he won't think she's going to take his food. She, Gabby, only ate 1 back as well. She's been wolfing down the grass. Maybe I should feed her and Bolt 2x a day smaller meals. We just took a walk and my big guy, Chief, had a normal poop. It was yellow and I could hardly feel any bones. It was like one or two pieces about the size of clay cat litter crumbles (the bone) anyways this dog has never pooped that small logs. I hope that's how it will be in the future no more road apples!
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Re: Raw food Diet
[Re: Michelle Pociask ]
#248768 - 07/31/2009 07:15 PM |
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I feed 2x a day.
Deep-chested bloat-vulnerable breeds I feed 2x and small dogs need 2x.
I agree that she cannot be standing by his crate or allowed to stare at him eating. He (all) should be at peace with his food. Food that you give, you also protect from being stolen away. 
I really can't overemphasize how an ounce of prevention here can eliminate a whole pound of cure that may not ever fully work. You want the dogs to be secure with their food.
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Re: Raw food Diet
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#248777 - 07/31/2009 09:24 PM |
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Michelle, hang in there, you'll get is right and Connie, Michael and the other have some wonderful advice for you. Read their posts and they can nearly pin-point what you need to do.
And, yeah, we all poop watch. Then we KNOW what's going on.
I don't have any evidence or statistic so this is just my own rambling thoughts. I think the reason some people free feed is because the dog is only eating the crap to keep from starving. I know when my dog was on kibble, I went from leaving her food down for a long time to leaving it down all the time because she wouldn't eat. She would pick up a piece or two every now and then just to keep from starving out.
Now, we don't have that problem. I put it down and she eats it with obvious delight. Then, she always seeks me out for a pet as she stretches and licks her lips (licks me, too). I always felt like she was thanking me for the good meal. She never did that on kibble.
Remember, a dog will NEVER willingly starve itself to death. They will eat.
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Re: Raw food Diet
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#248814 - 08/01/2009 03:54 PM |
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I don't have any evidence or statistic so this is just my own rambling thoughts. I think the reason some people free feed is because the dog is only eating the crap to keep from starving. I know when my dog was on kibble, I went from leaving her food down for a long time to leaving it down all the time because she wouldn't eat. She would pick up a piece or two every now and then just to keep from starving out.
Now, we don't have that problem. I put it down and she eats it with obvious delight. Then, she always seeks me out for a pet as she stretches and licks her lips (licks me, too). I always felt like she was thanking me for the good meal. She never did that on kibble.
My own experience supports this. I'm not sure I've ever seen a dog enthusiastically chow down on kibble unless it's a new brand or if they've been fasted for some reason.
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Re: Raw food Diet
[Re: Michelle Pociask ]
#248818 - 08/01/2009 04:10 PM |
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She, Gabby, only ate 1 back as well. She's been wolfing down the grass. Does she do this often? How long has she been eating grass? Are her stools always normal or does she ever have a bout of transient diarrhea?
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Re: Raw food Diet
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#248830 - 08/01/2009 06:14 PM |
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She is like a goat and is fond of feminine products and paper. She was real mucusy today, I bought enzymes and gave it with second feeding. She's eaten grass before, but I think it's when she's passing items. She eats pens, pencils anthing the kids leave on the floor. The large dog had regular poop coated with mucus. Smallest hasn't gone yet today, but he may verywell have kibble back up. I haven't done the second walk so he may still go.
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Re: Raw food Diet
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#248840 - 08/01/2009 09:24 PM |
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Both mucous and grass-eating are symptoms of Giardia, which is why I ask. I have had lots of fun researching this the past month.
Adults can have this for a very long time and it can go undetected due to it's often subtle symptoms, but if they were mine, I'd assume they had it and treat it w/a course of fenbendazole or metronidazole. It affects digestion to where they are not absorbing nutrients from their food; this may even be contributing to the pica issue.
Just something to think about.
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Re: Raw food Diet
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#248858 - 08/02/2009 07:56 AM |
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I concur, having a dog that had severe Giardia infection. Mucous stool, grass mowing, and was on 3 weeks of metronidazole. I think it is worth taking a mucously, grass-filled, nasty smelling poop log into the vets and have it sent to an outside lab for testing==specifically for Giardia but also other issues.
I think the tummy and intestines hurt so the pain makes them try to fill it up. They can't get the nutrients so they find it or try to find it somewhere else. They poop so much and so quickly and loosely, they are in pain and never full. Take specimens in and find out, and you should have some peace of mind about this part of their behavior.
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Re: Raw food Diet
[Re: Jo Harker ]
#248868 - 08/02/2009 10:46 AM |
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Actually my big guy had Giardia and round worms when I got him as a pup. He'd had no dewormings and no shots. The days and nights I spent pulling worms out of his poor butt... I've been told to add more meat as too much bone can cause irritant thus mucus on the raw list, but will take in a stool sample on Monday as I haven't done so in a while.
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