 Re: Territorial Barking
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#283666 - 07/08/2010 06:31 PM |
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I've never had a dog that air snapped without a lunge to accompany.
I don't care if it's a deer whistle that sets him off or just a random vehicle passing....he does not move towards a moving car for any reason that crosses his mind. Ever. Period.
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Re: Territorial Barking
[Re: Marcia Blum ]
#283667 - 07/08/2010 06:35 PM |
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With the car issue I found it to be easier to deal with if we were walking in the same direction as the cars, so I started from there. If the car was coming towards us she was a nightmare. So I avoided that at first.
Surprisingly, I also noticed that it was easier on busy main roads with traffic flow than it was side streets with random cars.
We didn't have an air snap, just a crazy bark. So I don't know about that. I would probably just ignore it.
I think they do grow up at some point, but the older she gets the longer people I talk to extend puppyhood. It started with "They are puppies untill they are one."....
Now I'm hearing three from some people!
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Re: Territorial Barking
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#283668 - 07/08/2010 06:42 PM |
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When she started doing this, it took me by surprise. It's not as though we don't see hundreds of cars in the city - all of which she completely ignores when we are on a sidewalk as I had mentioned before. So, this is an infrequent (weekend) behavior, when we travel to the mountains and walk along more rural roads. She did lunge the first couple of times along with the air snaps. I corrected her. The next time we encountered a car, I had her on too short a leash for a lunge, I think, so I noticed the air snapping.
Thanks for all your help. She is officially in boot camp when we go on our next mountain excursion. Zero tolerance.
ETA: Lauren and I were typing at the same time. Yes, more cars less notice of them. It's when a lone car is coasting along down a road that sends her...
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Re: Territorial Barking
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#283669 - 07/08/2010 07:00 PM |
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Mental maturity will vary by breed & lines within a breed.
Why are ya all wishing away you dog's puppyhood? It's the best time of all with your pups. They are going to be 'big' dogs for many many years. Enjoy their puppyhood!
All of the problems stated above are 'training issues'. I have worked, downed & run my dogs even in my front yard (with no fence) & they don't even look at the cars & trucks going by. It is all training in steps with distractions. And trust me, it is not because they are at all lacking in prey drive, especially my female who is very high drive.
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I don't care if it's a deer whistle that sets him off or just a random vehicle passing....he does not move towards a moving car for any reason that crosses his mind. Ever. Period.
A BIG DITTO. My pups learn that at 8 wks old. They are redirected from focusing on cars from the 1st day with me. They just learn that cars chasing is not an option.
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Re: Territorial Barking
[Re: Marcia Blum ]
#283670 - 07/08/2010 07:01 PM |
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Lucky you that it is isolated to one situation. Imagine her doing it all the time on every single walk for two months. That was my life! 
Since it is only when you are away I bet simple zero tolerance will do just fine.
ETA: I only found what was easier and worked from there because otherwise I was correcting her every ten steps. My nerves couldn't take it!
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Re: Territorial Barking
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#283673 - 07/08/2010 07:10 PM |
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I only found what was easier and worked from there because otherwise I was correcting her every ten steps. My nerves couldn't take it!
The principles of adding distractions!!  I am too impatient sometimes...
Anne is right, enjoy puppyhood and keep on working at the training. That is how you get the wonderful 3 year old!!
ETA: A 3 year old that is NOT interested in cars, other dogs and quietly joins you on the porch for a cup of tea.
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Re: Territorial Barking
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#283675 - 07/08/2010 07:27 PM |
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I didn't say that it was easy....just takes time & consistancy.
If I find something that is an issue, I focus my attention to fixing that problem. I can be just as relentless as my dogs can be if necessary, maybe even more so if I have to be. 
Sometimes you just have to think outside of the box. I have found that to be the case particularly with my male. He is in many ways very different then most of the other dogs that I have owned thru the years. You have to find what works for each dog. Cookie cutter training does not work for many of the dogs out there. That's what can make it interesting & why many of the people that go to the box store types of training facilitiies are often not very sucessful with dogs that just don't fall into the cookie cutter type mold.
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Re: Territorial Barking
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#283677 - 07/08/2010 08:45 PM |
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Okay, now I'm going to turn things around for you guys (I think).
It's not the high over the top prey of my two animals who 'had' the issue with cars.
Cassie, the long haired over the top prey driven mindless dog she is, never had the slightest interest in cars.
Strider thou....it started I believe with a rattling wheel on a shopping cart (of all things). First it was lunging at shopping carts and progressed to cars........Enough! No more! Time to extinguish this. Bush my hands off....done.
He's 14 months old. We'll see if it brings other issues farther down the line.
But I can not nor will I not have a dog that interested in cars.
eta;
so far so good, he doesn't seem to be suffering any ill effects.
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Re: Territorial Barking
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#283683 - 07/08/2010 09:38 PM |
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I don't know if it is prey drive, but for us the car issue was definitely a matter of visual stimulation. I know this for sure because the headlights made it 10000 times worse at night.
I'm 100% sure that she would happily be a car chaser if ever allowed the opportunity.
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[Re: Lauren Jeffery ]
#283705 - 07/08/2010 10:23 PM |
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And here is another observation: Maggie is VERY interested in the car when it goes downhill (and around a bend). If it is chuggin' up the hill like the rest of us, who cares? Lauren is right, it is how they perceive the visual stimulation.
Maggie's prey drive is about the movement. She starts to nip at our boots when we turn around on skis and start gliding down. Bicyclists coasting along the road...
The car in the driveway is of no consequence if it is not moving. But if you are walking on the stairs, watch out.
ETA: So how do you harness this?
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