So far it's all made perfect sense to me.
Er, that is except for what's been deleted by some kind of anti-matter....emmmmm I don't remember. Where were we again?
I am going to chip in here and give an example of what goes on my training field to provide an example of Aaron's point.
Now Fetz is a extremely *verbal* dog - those of you that have seen us at the Leerburg seminars or have trained with me know exactly what I mean.
Fetz is a talker, and squeaks in excitement a lot ( it'd be embarrassing if his bite work wasn't so good ).
I *never* have to amp him up ( at one Leerburg seminar, I was on deck as the next dog and Fetz was squealing away and one of the trainers watching said "wow...a dog that loads himself!" ).
He can get so loud that if new people are at the club, I make sure that they know that it's Fetz's normal state, that I'm not juicing him with the e-collar, so they don't get the wrong idea.
Quote: Aaron Myracle
Kelly Byrd's dog is the same way.
You'd think someone was beating the dog to death.
But that's just Koenig.
He sure does- and I HAVE gotten looks like I'm abusing him. Kids were throwing rocks in the water the other day and my dog **lost it** Crying, screaming, barking, totally out of control. He gripes at me in OB too. (Will, does Fetz talk in OB?)
Everyone, IMO should keep Aaron's point in mind.
Quote: Aaron Myracle
I've seen people use methods on their dogs that I wouldn't use on mine. Rather than scrutinize the method- I look at the dog.
Is the dog happy? Does the dog want to be doing the work? Is the dog relaxed in the obedience work?
Does the dog recover quickly from the correction, and return to happy working?
Unless I know the dog well, and know the handler well, I'm in no position to say what would work best for that dog and handler. I can only say the dog is working freely, eagerly and with confidence.
Every dog is different. What works for my dog, will NOT work for a handler hard dog, or a sharp dog. What works for a hard dog would shut mine down. We all should keep an open mind, as hard as it is sometimes.
I have also had a screamer, he sounded like I was beating him over the head whenever he got excited, it was embarassing but I learned to ignore it.
I was approached several times by people, and given an earful, because my dog was flopping on the ground like a fish out of water, and screaming because he was worked up over something and couldn't do it/get there fast enough.
My current Dog loki also moans and bays whenever he is really excited, it is slightly less alarming than the full blown screaming, but does take people back.
we still playin, -ve numbers would ahh still be something, very much something in fact.
maybe you should look at my intial proffessional training as you like going through my threads so much, before you re-post, doesn't involve dogs but ah lots of numbers involved tehe.
Numbers guy huh? I would have guessed English Literature.
Anyone else noticed how there is a "flip switch" for this individual? Many posts are almost jibberish, yet others are fairly articulate, although rarely with capital letters where needed, etc... It would be interesting to know if it is deliberate or something out of their control...
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