 Re: Diet for 12 week old Puppy with diarrhea
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#295103 - 09/07/2010 03:17 PM |
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.... I truly think I was overfeeding him.  Poor guy!! 
Has he had a few days' worth of good log poops now?
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Re: Diet for 12 week old Puppy with diarrhea
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#295105 - 09/07/2010 03:21 PM |
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.... I truly think I was overfeeding him. Poor guy!!
Has he had a few days' worth of good log poops now?
Small raw starting-meals (and skin off until first poop. then gradually added back, each ingredient added separately with poop observed, etc.) will help to avoid any more
episodes. 
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Re: Diet for 12 week old Puppy with diarrhea
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Re: Diet for 12 week old Puppy with diarrhea
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#295114 - 09/07/2010 04:45 PM |
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We have SUCCESS !!  He has had a couple of long "logs"! I was thrilled and I think he was relieved!!  Poor little guy!!
Good! You want a couple of days' worth of "perfect poop" history before making any change.
I don't have a scale, but I kept the labels. .... I packaged them in quart freezer Ziplocks ... Marked them and put them in the freezer.
Good!
Is the skin really hard on their tummies?
Not at all. In fact, healthy dogs deal use raw fat very well. With a diarrhea history, you just want to start with any extra fat (like the skin and the fat attached to it) pulled off so you can add it back when you see perfect poops.
Where is the best place to get a ratio of food to his body weight? Is there a standard formula?
It's about 5 to 10% of a growing puppy's weight. (This is for a raw diet - nothing to do with kibble or canned.) The reason I brought it up was because with a diarrhea history (or really with any big diet change), you want to start with a couple of meals well below the weight of food that you will be feeding, and wait for that perfect poop.
(It's about 2 or 3% for an adult.)
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Re: Diet for 12 week old Puppy with diarrhea
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#296123 - 09/12/2010 08:19 PM |
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We are beginning the bone-in chicken breasts today, and we will see how that goes for Kaiser.
Wish us the best!!
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Re: Diet for 12 week old Puppy with diarrhea
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#296128 - 09/12/2010 08:34 PM |
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We are beginning the bone-in chicken breasts today, and we will see how that goes for Kaiser.
Wish us the best!!
It will be fine. I would start with "peeled" ones.
When you see good poop from that, you can add back the "peel."
Don't forget to make the first couple of RMB meals smaller than the baseline amount he will need. Did you work out what 5% of his weight is?
(I assume from this that he has had all these days' worth of log poops, right?)
e.t.a. You did good, BTW! Pat on the back for doing the back-to-log-poops diet before the switch in diet. Now you have a "baseline" poop and you can watch every day as you add one item at a time over the coming days. A change towards pudding would mean "back up to the last step and re-introduce the new item more slowly."
Edited by Connie Sutherland (09/12/2010 08:40 PM)
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Re: Diet for 12 week old Puppy with diarrhea
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#296161 - 09/12/2010 10:44 PM |
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Connie-
I gave him a "peeled" chicken breast with ribs tonight and he LOVED it!!
It was gone fairly quickly, but he did seem to take more time with it than with his usual food, of course.
Yes, he has had normal "logs", which thrilled me after our long battle!! 
We will see how this week goes.
Keep you posted!!
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Re: Diet for 12 week old Puppy with diarrhea
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#296170 - 09/12/2010 11:06 PM |
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Connie-
I gave him a "peeled" chicken breast with ribs tonight and he LOVED it!!
It was gone fairly quickly, but he did seem to take more time with it than with his usual food, of course.
Yes, he has had normal "logs", which thrilled me after our long battle!!
We will see how this week goes.
Keep you posted!!
Lucky dog!
One of mine came to me as a senior with a lifetime on crap-in-a-bag behind him. He's the one who vibrates while the supper bowls are being prepared.
He still stands there with a faraway unfocused look on his face as he crunch-munches through his chicken backs. Like a dark-chocolate or caviar look on a person. lol
The others inhale, but he chews his RMBs up with intense concentration, and I know he extracts every last drop of yum out of them.
Believe me, no other dog is allowed to hover near his bowl while he works through those RMBs. 
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Re: Diet for 12 week old Puppy with diarrhea
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#296171 - 09/12/2010 11:07 PM |
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Yes, he has had normal "logs", which thrilled me after our long battle!!
Good job!!!
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Re: Diet for 12 week old Puppy with diarrhea
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#296246 - 09/13/2010 02:31 PM |
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Connie-
I am so happy he is feeling better, and he seems calmer too, now that his tummy is under control- I would be calmer too!!
Speaking of no other dog comes near your dog while he is eating his RMB's, should Kaiser "guard" his chicken?  I want to be able to take anything away from him in case he chokes or something, but I don't want to appear as a bully either?
He is only 14 weeks and if this is dominance I want to end it now, right?
Thoughts??
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