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You could try keeping moving forward along the wall. Fixed the sitting-at-an-angle problem with my 3 pet dogs. Moving and leash pressure. Also you could teach them swinging their rear end around. At first separately using touchpads, then at your side.
I do use marker training, and have tried taking steps to the right to get him to correct, to get closer, and closer. I seem to be able to get his nose closer, but his butt swings out.
It's a winter project!
"Crowding" is lost points in AKC and Schutzhund. More so in AKC.They can be pretty anal about it.
How the dog returns to the heel position doesn't matter.
Yrs back I trained it by walking into and bumping the dog out of the way with my knee. That was common at the time. I created a dog that would lean in anticipation of the knee. That's when I decided to train both the flip and the go round. It took all the pressure of off the dog because he had to wait for which command I would give him.
Now, with marker training that problem is no longer.
Koenig has MAJOR issues with crowding me. To the extent that he'll sometimes FALL DOWN at the sit/heel position if I move suddenly to the right.
Bob- you mentioned you used to use the bump with the knee trick. Any other ideas? I'd hate to make Koenig so super aware of my knee that he's leaning.
Our Fuss is far from polished, but the leaning can get very extreme some days, others it's not an issue.
"teach swinging the rear end around"
Thats a great idea. I didn't think of that at all. Going on the wall or fence works great as long as there is a wall or fence.
Edited by Betty Landercasp (11/29/2010 02:55 PM)
Edit reason: have tried the wall
I have seen some videos on youtube where the girl teaches her dogs hind end awareness before she starts with the heel. Then she has then move with her while between her legs.
It is an interesting approach, I might have to try it.
It is a hard habit to break.
I rewarded "sit" at halt too soon, did not wait for the
proper sit. Now I don't seem to be able to get a proper sit
consistently.
Is that a fixable deal?
The faster they sit, the less chance they have to swing out (usually!). You can teach a faster sit separately from the heel, and then in conjunction with a wall (with the dog in the heel position) to prevent the undesirable behavior from occurring.
I don't think there's any need to use a new command - you just need to "refine" the old one.
Any tips for a dog who get's suspicious of the wall.
We worked on this some a little bit ago and he acted very suspicious of being between me and the hallway wall with lots of sideways glances and huffing.
Then of course I stepped on his poor paw so we took a break.
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