 Re: Home cooked to Raw transition
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#323168 - 03/22/2011 01:02 PM |
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So Faroh has been digesting everything fine it seems, even the legs. I got some chicken necks (10kgs - had to buy a box), and just saw today that he's pooping out some vertebrae. When he eats them, it's basically "crunch, swallow" or "gulp". Should I be crushing these up? Will his system adjust, or are there "problem" items for some dogs? I've pretty much stopped mincing the other stuff, I cut the leg into a couple pieces.
He is now getting a minute amount of quinoa, and just mostly meat, a bit of veggie. He gets 2 snacks a day (empty stomach syndrome), one is a hard boiled egg and a bit of veggies, and the other is yogurt with quinoa and veggies. He also gets tripe added in his meals.
He is steady at 1 poop a day, occasionally every 36 hours. They are fairly small, and various colours it seems (though nothing outrageous!), I suppose depending a lot on the veggies and other side dishes he gets?
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Re: Home cooked to Raw transition
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#323171 - 03/22/2011 01:08 PM |
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I wouldn't worry about his chewing habits and breaking up food. Sounds like he is doing everything perfectly normal.
The chicken vertebra happens a lot via my own experience, and reading on here. As long as you are rotating between a few different RMB's, I don't forsee any issues. It is also likely to subside once he becomes more accustomed to the diet.
Even if I saw a chicken vertebra in Turb's poop, I wouldn't worry in the slightest. They pass just fine. And he has a MUCH smaller butthole than a GSD. 
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Re: Home cooked to Raw transition
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#323176 - 03/22/2011 01:19 PM |
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My dogs used to produce chunks of undigested bone in their poop when first switched to raw but got better at processing in short periods of time.
If I see undigested chunks of a particular bone (such as legs) in somebody's poop consistently I start mincing that part for them.
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Re: Home cooked to Raw transition
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#323178 - 03/22/2011 01:20 PM |
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I think once Faroh develops full digestive acids from eating all raw, you will see those tiny vertebrae disappear.
I have only once seen undigested bones in my dogs stool, so you should be fine.
Glad to hear he is loving his new diet and it is going so well Phaedra.
About the poop colors, produce sure does make a visible difference.
I feed mine frozen blueberries a couple times per week and it definitely changes to a much darker color. The canned pumpkin can also do this too.
Joyce Salazar
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Re: Home cooked to Raw transition
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#323187 - 03/22/2011 01:58 PM |
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I agree with everyone, and I have found over the years that produce is THE rainbow factor. 
Also, as mentioned, he is new to raw. His body is recognizing the increased need for bone-processing acid and enzymes.
The cool thing is that this enzyme production is what the dog has evolved to do. This is how the dog's GI system is meant to work!
I like to use backs as beginner-RMBs because of their digestibility (cartilage-y-ness).
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#323194 - 03/22/2011 02:45 PM |
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That's good to hear. He does eat mostly backs, some leg, and I just threw in a couple necks because everything is going fine. The vertebrae was only about 1/4 of the diameter of the poop, so I'm sure he didn't even notice in the slightest.
I have some beef kidney in the freezer I'm thinking of adding in slowly as well. The chicken backs have some kidney in them I notice, and that doesn't seem to cause any trouble.
As for the colour, I did find some butternut squash baby food on sale, as well as a mixed frozen spring veggies on 2-for-1, which included spinach, so that accounts for the orange and green! I have my eye out for blueberries, but haven't seen any one sale yet.
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Re: Home cooked to Raw transition
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#323195 - 03/22/2011 02:51 PM |
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"I have my eye out for blueberries ... "
When you have blueberry glut in the summer, you may want to freeze them on large sheets so the stay separate, then baggy 'em up. Nothing like "fresh" summer berries in January, I tell you! For me and the dogs!
I also freeze zucchini guts when neighbors are sneaking zucchini onto porches at midnight in August to get rid of them. I scoop out the guts and pack it into square freezer containers or zip-lock baggies that I freeze lying on a sheet pan so a stack of them, frozen, lays flat.
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Re: Home cooked to Raw transition
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#323199 - 03/22/2011 03:17 PM |
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I wish my dogs would better at eating veggies...they dont dig it at all...i end up hiding it in the THK and even then, sometimes i need to put sardines and tripe in it so they even touch it...blueberries are the only exception
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Re: Home cooked to Raw transition
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#323201 - 03/22/2011 03:25 PM |
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I wish my dogs would better at eating veggies...they dont dig it at all...i end up hiding it in the THK and even then, sometimes i need to put sardines and tripe in it so they even touch it...blueberries are the only exception
Smoosh it into the yogurt.
Green tripe actually is produce, doggy-style, anyway. And THK has dehydrated produce, too.
If I were feeding tripe and THK, my produce concerns would be minimal indeed.
I do like to get some of those phytochemical-rich fresh foods into the diet, and your blueberries are a terrific way; they are a low-sugar item that are loaded with flavonoids and antioxidant phenolic compounds.
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#323232 - 03/22/2011 06:22 PM |
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I wish my dogs would better at eating veggies...they dont dig it at all...i end up hiding it in the THK and even then, sometimes i need to put sardines and tripe in it so they even touch it...blueberries are the only exception
What kind of veggies do you give them? have you tried putting their dose of salmon oil for the day right on the veggies? Faroh loves vegetables, but I find if I put them in yogurt (like Connie said), with the salmon oil, he goes for them sometimes before anything else.
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