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				I did dog walks for a Chessie that put the 'fear of god' into me the first time I met her. My first few visits to their house were spent making friends before I could even take her out. She was fantastic to walk, well mannered and social with strangers, but very alert and protective of the house and her family. She'd park herself between me and them constantly, and just stare at me.								
				
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				#329424 - 04/26/2011 07:38 AM | 
			
			
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				Really Ross?How would you go about this type of training?
Like this...
 Keep it simple...teach the dog to bark/speak on command.
 Dog barks at something ..mark with a "yes" & reward with a treat. Or hold a toy that the dog wants...again dog barks, mark with "yes"..reward with the toy or food.
 
 Gradually say the command speak or what ever...use the German word geblaut (how to pronounce)as someone would most likely not know what you are saying) when the dog barks for his toy...then mark & reward.
 
 He will eventualy associate the word with the bark..& then you can just use the command & the dog will bark. simple. Your ill-intentioned everyday person that has crossed your path will not know that you are telling the dog to bark. Most people will not risk a dog bite (they HURT) especially with a large breed dog.
 
 If the dog barking at them doesn't detur them...then you need a gun & or the police. If they are on drugs..it wouldn't matter to them if the dog really would attack & bite them or not...they are too hight to think straight anyway.
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				Enjoy reading other Chessie anecdotes. I wonder if the breed is still "that way".  
My husband would like another, like you Barbara, Maple was our first dog when we were married. Husband "picked" her from the litter, said the dam was like a cougar, the sire was trotting about the yard carrying a 4x4x8 post,  my husband thought both sire and dam were cool, we were just kids.								
				
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				I am trying to teach my boy to bark on command. 
He will bark for a toy. When I reward, should I trow the toy, tug or give him a food reward?
 
As soon as I mark it at the moment he stop, he also try his whole bag of tricks.
 
One more logic question, I guess I should not stop him from barking at other time while he is learning this one. To pre event confusion.								
				
 
   
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				I am trying to teach my boy to bark on command.He will bark for a toy. When I reward, should I trow the toy, tug or give him a food reward?
 
 As soon as I mark it at the moment he stop, he also try his whole bag of tricks.
 
 One more logic question, I guess I should not stop him from barking at other time while he is learning this one. To pre event confusion.
I've had Roger barking on command since he was about 4 months old, and I did it by simply holding the treat in front of him when he was in a sit, and waiting for him to bark.  I gradually shaped that into "bark" and "no bark."								
				
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				edit--this is why I said in my first post that it's not hard.  Even an ignoramus like myself can do this, or at least get it started. 
Randy, don't even waste your time.								
				
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				Another interesting topic.  I'm enjoying all the anecdotes.  I think the title of the OP kind of sums it up.  If you are out walking a GSD, Rottie, Dobie, AmStaff or any of dozens of other large, assertive, working type breeds, that is often enough of a deterrent, even if you yourself know that your dog is a cream puff.      I do understand that one cannot expect a dog not thoroughly trained in protection to actually fend off an attacker, but if a potential robber (or worse) is looking for a victim, they are likely to look for an easier target than someone walking a large, confident-looking dog.
 
Regarding teaching the bark on command, I've recently been reading some articles on the history of AKC obedience, and years ago, that was a required part of the obedience exercises!								
				
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				edit--this is why I said in my first post that it's not hard.  Even an ignoramus like myself can do this, or at least get it started.
 Randy, don't even waste your time.
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				Connie--the disclaimer is necessary IMO.  Even if he was on my ignore list (still haven't figured it out), the rest of you would still have to read his crap. 
Better that he knows up front that I'm not presenting myself as any kind of authority, or anything other than a clueless dog owner.								
				
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