Melissa said

You corrected a puppy for being a puppy in both of these instances. You and your wife ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

Here's a tip: IF YOU HAVE THE URGE TO PHYSICALLY CORRECT YOUR PUP, WALK AWAY. Quit hurting him! If you cannot figure out how to use a verbal correction ("No") and redirect, then you do not have a chance in hell of raising this pup correctly.

Trust me, scruffing him, will ruin your bond and his "velcro" nature...which is actually probably insecurity in his new surroundings.


Wendy said:

please please please give this pup a chance to acclimate to his new surroundings and situation before giving ANY corrections!!

The first few weeks are BONDING time. Not correction time!!

You are doing way too much too fast with this puppy.

You really need to relax. If you don't you are going to do some mental damage with this pup.

And stop jumping at shadows.

don't re-act so quickly or intensely as you are.

doing things right with this pup don't include harsh corrections
Doing things right with this pup involve letting him settle in and get himself sorted out.

Advice has been given to you numerous times in the numerous threads you have started. And generally when we give you advice we get a reply of "shoot, I already did it, now what"


This is what EVERYONE on a board of experienced people is saying.

You and your wife need to listen, Nick, BEFORE you screw up yet again.

A multi-titled board member here has commented numerous times that it's pretty sad if humans with our big human brains must resort to violence against a puppy. A puppy screaming because of violence on him from his owner?? For doing what puppies naturally do?

Come on. You can do WAY better. Now is the time.

Nick, you do realize that all of everything that has been posted here is because we want you to know how to do right by this new pup.
There is a seriousness in everything said, not because we want to be mean but because you don't seem to realize just the caliber dog you have.

Honestly, I would just like to know if you have taken the time to read what people are telling you? Or are you just asking questions and then doing your own thing?

There have been countless warnings about the seriousness of this breed and if you really love and care about this dog. Stop to consider all the words of caution that were said to you and really ask yourself if this the right breed for your family?

You know when you were a kid and you had to learn to ride a bicycle? You had to have training wheels first because you didn't have the coordination to ride the bike yet.
Eventually you learned how to ride the bike and moved on to no training wheels, then to a bigger bicycle etc.

When you got a Malinois, you completely bi-passed your training wheels, and got inside that Ferrari, a motor vehicle!
But without knowing how to drive it, you stand to crash and burn if you don't take some well intended advice from extremely experienced dog handlers who know a great deal about what they are talking about here.

I really hope you know, we're only concerned with the welfare of this high caliber dog and want to see it taken care of in the best way possible. That is what all this is about, just making sure you know what you are doing.

It would be great if you could let us know how today is going and that you understand the real intentions here.

thanks everyone been reading my threads!

Nick, I realize this is either going to be ignored or will go in one ear and out the other, but you have just breezed by three very serious posts/comments/questions about how you are handling this dog. ALL of us are dead serious and your reply to these serious posts??? "Thanks for reading my threads".

How about YOU read the threads and really, really implement the advice?

I know I'm typing for my own benefit because you seem either incapable or unwilling to seriously engage with the forum members and all the advice you've been given.

You are going to find (as is already happening) that you simply won't get any responses to your questions. We can only talk to ourselves for so long when it is obvious the advice is being ignored. Some people will still hop in on any posts which have the pup's real health involved, but all the endless chatter and "thanks for reading my threads" mess will simply be ignored.

We are only going to take you as seriously as you take us and so far, that is non-existant. Once again, the pup is going to pay the price, but I'll stop saying that because everyone knows it but you.

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Nick, I realize this is either going to be ignored or will go in one ear and out the other, but you have just breezed by three very serious posts/comments/questions about how you are handling this dog. ALL of us are dead serious and your reply to these serious posts??? "Thanks for reading my threads".

How about YOU read the threads and really, really implement the advice? ... You are going to find (as is already happening) that you simply won't get any responses to your questions. We can only talk to ourselves for so long when it is obvious the advice is being ignored. ... We are only going to take you as seriously as you take us and so far, that is non-existant. Once again, the pup is going to pay the price, but I'll stop saying that because everyone knows it but you.

You guys have more patience then I do...I gave up on this guy days ago.

I stand by my statment that the pup should have been returned to the breeder. He is in a NO WIN situation where he is. <SIGH>

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You guys have more patience then I do...I gave up on this guy days ago.

I stand by my statment that the pup should have been returned to the breeder. He is in a NO WIN situation where he is. <SIGH>

I understand your feelings Anne. Many folks have given up on the guy - but not on the pup... and since it does not appear that the dog will be returned, the concern is to TRY and improve the dog's life. DEEEEEP sigh. IMHO, this is one of the most bizaar, challenging situations I think most of us have witnessed on the forum.

I hope someone gets thru to him, for the sake of the pup. But somehow I doubt seriously that this is going to happen.

I went back & forth with PMs telling him he NEEDED to listen to the sound advice given by many who had raised numerous pups & were give him tons of time & free advice trying to help him. Yet, he insists on "marching to his own drummer". There were so many contradictions in his PMs to me that I really truly don't think that this man has the capacity to LISTEN & LEARN.

You claim that you are going to proove me wrong.....I'M SO WAITING !!!!! Hopefully, it will be before the pup gets a few months older & bigger. These things don't usually end up in a good way for the dogs. <S I G H>

I hope that you read my post above Nick & it casues you to react & do the right thing for your puppy. He NEEDS you to step up & take care of him the way that people here have tried to help you do before it's TOO LATE!!

It was posted to light a fire under you Nick. I hope it does.